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If that were really the case then I'd like to think they'd be taking away his ability to do so.

My god, if this is true (big if here)this is so much worse than the Hurney years. I also wouldn't put it past Tepper to be mandating this type of action from Fitterer. I have absolutely nothing to back that speculation up but it's the exact type of fuggery that's been happening since he took over.

It's interesting also comparing Bruce's 3 passing charts - the passes have been getting closer and closer to the LOS each game.

Holy geez, Bryce talking at the 2:30 mark... dude sounds exactly like my 12 year old son.

Gotcha. The only logged throw that travelled that far was the TMJ one so it must not have counted as an offiical play if it was indeed that ong of a throw. I wasn't able to watch that game so can't say.

So it was Week 1 then?

Didn't see that one but yeah, have to be able to capitalize on those opportunities.

I didn't say anything about Dalton so you can keep that nonsense out of your reply to me. Since you brought it up though, here is his chart vs Seattle - 4/7 past 20 yards including a TD. Bryce has attempted 4 passes at or past 20 yards all year, 3 of them less than 25 yds, and completed 1. Bryce didn't even throw the ball past 20 vs the Vikings.

This are his Week 1 and Week 2 charts - what 'deep overthrows' are you talking about? Despite what the NFL says 20 yards is not a deep throw, as it's barely longer than where the safeties line up. There is one throw of 40 yards but that's Drew Brees-deadarm depth.

We need a common sense spell for Tepper and the FO though. That post didn't describe one of those.

That whole "no one will want to come here" stuff is just nonsense. There are only 32 NFL HC jobs and there are always people that want one. It's one thing to fire poeple that do OK such as Caldwll in Indy, Callahn in Oakland, etc, but most flks understand that results are required to keep a job. If you do OK and show positive movement then you get some leeway but doing an extraordinarily bad job may = being fired extraordinarily fast. Not unreasonable IMO.

We saw that in 2010. It wasn't pretty and drove Steve to be out the door until Cam swayed him back.

No, no... that play ain't it, chief.

WTF is that route combination? I guess maybe a mesh/crossing that gets rushed by pressure?

I can tolerate being beaten - that's the nature of life, giving it your all and still coming up short sometimes. What has drained me the most is the string of very obvious and easily-avoidable missteps that Tepper has made since taking ownership. Hanging on to Rivera and Hurney in 2018 into 2019, hiring Rhule and giving him complete control, interjecting himself into the QB situation at the end of 2020, keeping Rhule into 2022, hiring Reich (a good guy but a lame hire)... and that's not touching on the personnel items during that time, which aren't necessarily Tepper's fault directly but are the result of these missteps. Like I tell my kids, I just can't support braindead behavior.

Barring some type of absolutely transcendent offensive resurgence if/when he takes over playcalling, like historic worst-to-first type thing in just weeks, there is near-zero risk of him going on to be an HC at the end of this season.

To be fair, it's not just him - celebrations are just over the top across the board these days. I'm not anti-celebration at all but it's like the WWE out there right now.

I wish they would have brought Jameis in in 2020 and just started fliniging it all over the place. Would have still lost but would have been way more interesting.

Yup. the modern NFL isn't about airing it out all the time, but rather being able to take credible shots at times throughout a game which may or may not hit AND (perhaps more importantly) capitalizing if/when coverages allow or break down. Points are hard ot come by and getting easy ones, be it on that play or as a result of a *true* deep field-flipping connection (none of this "20 air yards is a deep ball" nonsense") .

Are you forgetting that the team could not score in the second half of games? Hell, they only scored 3 second-half TDs the entire month of December. That doesn't make Reich any better, but the 2020 team had more than its share of suck. My expectations for this 2023 team were already low because of all the change but this has been worse than I anticipated.

Ah yes, the 'Why dies Stephen Gilmore keep slapping our receivers in the head?" game. That was a fun one.

Stats do not tell the story at all. Please tell me when Burns has blocked field goals, taken an interception 100 yards the other way, picked a fumble out of the air and returned it for a TD... just a handful of his impact plays that go beyond the stat sheet. Burns is very good, but it is flat out incorrect to say he's on Peppers' level even year-for-year in their careers.

Burns is nowhere near Peppers, who made huge splash plays and would simply take over games at times. Peppers would be, at times, the best player on not just the defense but the entire field. Burns is never that.

I meant the poor FO is correctable. Not sure what the point of the rest is, as it seems to agree that Burns is a complementary piece. Those pieces aren't worth top dollar.

That's a different issue though, and one that is ultimately correctable. And again, Burns is the same player he's always been, a very good-to-great pass rusher that just isn't a significant difference-maker.