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It was 35 air yards. Most every college QB can do that distance in this situation, let alone NFL. Hell, we see HS kids do this same thing weekly around here these days. His placement was OK enough to get a completion so that is perhaps worth noting, but the distance is not. Before my words get twisted like some people here invariably do, I am again strictly talking in this comment about the original comment about this play as it may or may not relate to arm strength. Nothing more.

Do you know how ridiculous you sound by not acknowledging that his magic suddenly dried up when he went to Denver and no longer had guys like Lockett and Baldwin to bail him out on a number of these types of plays? Funny how that works I understand full well why Bryce threw it. It just wasn't a great throw overall even though it was completed, a risky heave that landed inside and a bit short of Thielen but worked out on par with the type of BS from Wilson that we've suffered from over the years. This example was many years ago but I bet your comments at the time, like everyone else's here, were not about Russ's 'anticipation'. https://youtu.be/68bcN62O1rQ?feature=shared Again though, Bryce's escape was solid and he looked better today overall and my initial response was about the notion that it somehow showed arm strength. I'd put the TD to Tremble over this play for as a better throw of the day.

Yeah, every NFL QB can do that. His argument was that this throw somehow showed arm strength. Don't twist my response out of context. I watched Wilson play for years and you know as well as I do that he threw up a ton of slop that somehow landed, and the fact that it doesn't work in Denver shows that his receivers bailed him out quite a bit. And once again, the poster's point was at first arm strength and then it moved to this somehow being a sign of superior play, which just isn't the case when it comes to the throw power that he himself was referencing. You guys completely twist any point about lack of arm strength into BS like fastballs, which is disingenuous. Your smug and condescending schtick doesn't help your efforts either.

No, it's not. It's a lucky slop throw, just like the ones Russel Wilson used to get away with and no longer does, and you have now moved the argument from it being a display of superior arm strength, which it is not, to the play in general. I have nothing else to say here, so believe what you like. I'll agree with anyone that it's nice to see the positive trend these past weeks after the poor start.

Not every receiver needs to be elite. You don't necessarily want to spend a 2nd rounder on a guy that just turns into a lower-end #2 or solid #3, but how long has it been since Carolina even had one of those? If Mingo gets to that point then it's still a win.

Yes, this was Russel Wilson-level slop - it's OK to recognize that and we can all appreciate that it's nice to have it on our side. Doesn't change that those throws are othen ill-advised and it was fortunate the defense didn't intercept it. Nice to be able to get away with it but the best part of the play was escapability, not the throw. I am in no way suggesting that Levis is a better QB than Bryce and am only referencing the arm strength factor that you brought up, so don't bother creating that straw man, but Levis' 4th TD today was 50 yards off his back foot. That is arm strength. Bryce played a solid game today for sure and after a very rocky start is trending up but he still labors to put zip on throws and his arm is not comparable to top NFL arms at this time. It is what it is.

Come on now. It was a very good play but he threw that ball 35 yards through the air, a feat that literally every NFL QB can do, and it was the type of heave that can be vulnerable to interception. He had a nice game today but this play does not support an arm strength argument.

No they aren't, and even if they hadn't blown it dead Tremble held him.

And the idiot did it again, but did they blow it dead first? Carolina definitely grabbed him.

What a dumbass.

Burns makes an appearance, Young shows a little something, and then Piniero shanks the kick. The team just can't have nice things.

Going crazy around here and I'm 40 miles from Lawrence. Rock chalk.

For the millionth time though, it's not about replacing Burns directly with whatever picks they get. It's about maximizing the value and improving the team overall, and the examples you were given were teams that executed that strategy and benefitted from doing so. Burns may put up a few stats but he is not a difference-maker like Peppers was (to use the name you referenced), as has been shown time and again by myself and others. I have no way of knowing for sure but I would bet significant sums that this is the holdup in negotiations; the team recognizes this and is pricing accordingly, Burns doesn't want to hear it and is saying no. Sure, he is the key pass rush at the moment, but that money and those picks represent a big opportunity to improve the entire team. Maybe the FO bungles that and maybe they don't, but fear of 'it might be worse' is a part of how the team got here. They're 0-6 right now with Burns, who has had plenty of chances to be a difference-maker this year and, unsurprisingly, hasn't. Looking more and more like he's never going to be the game-changing player he wants to be paid like.

Just like Carr and Davante Adams, right? I'm being somewhat facetious and admittedly know (and care) very little about college football. Guess it couldn't hurt, but college success does not automatically translate.

Yeah, but that might not happen, so the team should stay scared, keep doing what they've been doing that obviously isn't working, and not make any attempt to amplify the value they have in their roster at this stage. /s

Why would it suck any more than most markets out there? Some of them may be more desireable, sure, but I'm betting most are pretty much the same.

You've been waiting all season for an NFL matchup of guys that have been out of college for years and who aren't actually on the field at the same time facing each other?

Bold AND daring.

It's T.O., isn't it?

Never, as it was the dumbest attempt at a rebrand that I can recall. Twitter/tweeting is like Tivo.

$30M a year...

His velocity has been better the past 2 weeks but man does he have to labor to get the speed on it. It's not encouraging.

It was, however, by far the best for the team, and between the record and the failed negotiation this year has shown exactly why.

I'm sure teams receive lots of inquiries and inquire about lots of players every year. Usually means nothing.