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Pay it for a quality candidate and GTFO, Tepper.

It's like Tepper chattering away about point guards, distributing the ball, and spending less on receivers.

I mean, he's not wrong. The team won't be picking in the top 10 next year. Lolz.

And then he screwed up AGAIN by not trading Burns to the Bears instead of Moore. Not as good a deal as the Rams windfall but an acceptable value IMO... and yet... nah, let's keep him and get rid of the proven receiving threat when bringing in an undersized QB that will be specifically leaned on to enable YAC to make the offense go.

Can't have the riff-raff in those sections. Those are for the real paying customers.

He's been on IR since the start of November but didn't do much before that for sure.

Nitpick word choice if you like even but ti's right there on the film. Those guys were not concerned about pressure, particularly obvious on the Mingo catch, or playing aggressive defense until after the Chark catch and it made life easier for Carolina. That's all I've even been saying this entire time. Nothing more, nothing less.

After having a sophomore slump, Brown has steadily improved and now ragdolls some of the best linemen in the game. A bright spot for sure and remarkably consistent.

Jesus Christ, you're in denial. I'm done and you're acting like a moron that didn't actually watch the video of the plays. Hint: if you had, you wouldn't be saying this. Screencaps don't show the play in motion. Nothing more to say here. You have nothing but a continual twisting of my words into something inaccurate since you're just flat out wrong.

I said prevent/contain, referring to the pass rush. It's pretty clearly man defense with safeties over the top but even then prevent is a concept moreso than an actual formation and refers to just wanting to avoid big plays. My words are being heavily twisted by a few folks.

That was 1 and like 4 plays into the drive right after Atlanta had just had a 6-minute drive. Atlanta and Carolina had split TOP until that point. You're the one not helping yourself here, and you are AGAIN ignoring that I'm referring to the DL - it's on the film, plain as day. At this point you're the only one still arguing against it, and you're flat out wrong. It's on the film. Arguing with what is on the film is just dumb. Accept it and move on.

Except that you're conveniently ignoring that I said contain/prevent, which has more to do with the way the rush is handled, as in pressure was not the priority. It's literally right there on the film, 4 DLs standing around waiting for Bryce to run until they changed after the Chark catch. I even linked the contrasting 4-man rush where Campbell got his sack earlier to illustrate the clear difference. But by all means, please feel free to keep misrepresenting my words and ignoring what the Falcons actually did and how it benefitted Carolina.

Just keep on ignoring it... keep right on. Not aggressively rushing the passer, which they were clearly doing at the start of the drive, is effectively similar.

I specifically said somewhere that they went back to standard rushing once Carolina got deep into Atlanta territory. And whether you agree with my use of prevent or not, it doesn't change the fact that they were not applying pressure and were not in difficult coverage. Just give it up already.

I posted the rest, and no, no it doesn't. The fact they were doing it at all is ridiculous and incredibly stupid but it's there.

Attempt to split hairs if you want, but the fact remains. Zero pressure, zero attempt to get pressure.

It's man 2-high with the line not even rushing. It's there on film. You even arguing that is what's bizarre. Seriously... on film In fact, watch the first 3 passing plays on the drive. Same crap the whole time. Compare it to Campbell's sack in the 2md quarter, which was also a 4-man rush. Or again, just keep ignoring it. Your prerogative. https://www.nfl.com/games/falcons-at-panthers-2023-reg-15?active-tab=highlights

Watch the play in actual motion, specifically the defensive line. Anyone arguing that Atlanta was NOT in contain/prevent is blind. Those linemen weren't rushing, they were all containing with pressure being a far secondary concern. They didn't actually turn it back on until Carolina got well into Atlanta territory. Or hey, keep arguing the nonsense despite what's actually on the film. Your prerogative.

Because game manager implies limited ability, especially when it comes to general playmaking.

My thought exactly. Bryce has been subpar overall and especially poor deep downfield, but if actual evidence exists to the contrary that doesn't look like this, I'll stand corrected.

I had no idea that Haynes was already 30 until they mentioned it in the broadcast. Dude has had an incredibly nondescript 6-year career.

That seems some major reaching there, both the claims of not seeing it in other threads (it absolutely HAS been there, myself included) and the Bryce was somehow taking stuff off because of the weather. Bryce's throws have been slow all season, and it takes all of his frame to get any kind of oomph. I'm not sure what else to really say beyond that, as it is abundantly clear; his throws are consistenly underthrown and take forever to reach their destination. If there's anything Bryce does not need to do, it's throw the ball slower.

I appreciate that sentiment. With respect to the post, I am just disagreeing with the football assessment - IMO it's highly inaccurate to call it 'the work of a franchise QB and a guy worthy of a #1 pick', nor was it an 'incredible drive for any QB'. It was NFL table stakes-type performance with zero pressure in his face for much of it, evidenced by Atlanta's defense ging AWOL on the film itself after they shut him down all game long (thanks Arthur), and inaccurate and weak throws still mostly the result; those are throws that an average HS QB could and should make except for perhaps the Chark catch (addressed in a prior post). It was no different than the Bryce that we've seen much of the year but because the team won, such performance is suddently being lauded as something it can very objectively be argued that it's not. That's pretty much it. Doesn't make sense. It's a crappy season with very little to be excited about and better to win than lose, but IMO that doesn't mean we have to or should accept what amounts to baseline NFL QB performance as something great. Kyle Carolina has seen this movie already - Kyle Allen, for example. It's totally fair to expect more.

Where have I cheered for them to lose? Nowhere. Would I like to see them winning and be wrong? Absolutely. But because I saw what was happening, it was clear that wasn't happening. And talking a counterpoint to the roses and sunshine that inexplicably pops up does not make us bad fans. It's not complicated. Being objective does now equate to being miserable, as there is nothing I can do about it. Been a fan since 1995... 7 winning seasons... no one hangs around this team if they can't roll with the punches. But being unrealistic, if not downright delusional, can be painful when the reality sets in.