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I have no idea what the history is here or why you dug this thread back up, but as an impartial observer that first post was most definitely not suggesting that Carolina just allow Bryce be used as a tackling dummy. He was very obviously suggesting that they either pull him or prepare for him to get hammered given the state of tackle play at the time. There is nothing in this thread openly hoping that Bryce gets hurt/wishing injury on him. Zilch. If anything, many posts are concerned for his health and folks are saying it makes (made) sense to save him from that risk and offer up Dalton to the Dallas pass rush.

If the numbers were there, yup. He's a competitor.

The Peter Principle is real. Put another way, no one is good at their role in a promotion unless they were either doing the job before and just didn't have the title, or they prove it. We can only hope it wasn't the former option given the pathetic FO actions of these past seasons, so with Tepper's track record the skepticism will remain until the latter occurs.

So Tepper hires a search firm and, lo and behold, ends up with the in-house candidate that, per varying reports, Tepper already trusts... What a surprise. Again, not Dan's fault for taking the job and maybe he ends up being great, but it just doesn't inspire confidence at this time.

What is the opinion in this tweet based on, exactly? Would be curious to know. If true, blech, with the fringe silver lining of them understanding his limitations and weaknesses and actually attempting to build to cover for them.

60% of restaurants fail in their first year and 80% fail within 5, so I'd say yeah. that was trying something unique and it didn't work out, though I heard it was pretty good pizza.

Eh, Tepper sucks. Nothing against Dan and this isn't his fault, but it's an L until proven otherwise. Call it the 'Appaloosa Effect'.

Indeed they were/are, and I daresay that Brown showed much more potential and 'flashed' more (as much as I hate that term) relative to his position than Bryce did this year. Bad OL, bad receivers, yada yada... Bryce still didn't show much above the Mendoza line within the realm of what he could control, and hte little bit that did look good was far from consistent or predicatble.

If we're playing that game, the Chiefs giving the ball back on the 2-inch line would have made those field goals irrelevant anyway. There is merit to OP's premise, as ludicrous as the notion of blowing the Bills up entirely is, and the Chiefs are Exhibit A. Moving from Smith to Mahomes was very risky at the time but they knew Smith wasn't going to get them there, so they made a move and it has worked out better than anyone there could have imagined. Could have bombed too but they were already not winning SBs, so why not take a calculated risk?

As far as the general public is concerned yes, he does call the plays. Just like any other situation where the HC is calling plays but still has an OC, who knows what that mechanism looks like behind the scenes.

What an awful decision, and it slipped out to boot.

I cursed him. I hereby rescind my comment and Love can now go back to making the 9ers look bad.

Love has exploded these past weeks and looks absolutely legit. Reminds me of Josh Allen's rapid ascent at the end of his second season.

You are incorrect, but as I clearly explained the definition and my position I honestly don't care enough to discuss it futher. If you can't/won't the distinction between the names on your list and guys like Frank Reich then that's on your side. That's not to say that someone like Belichick has anything left in the coaching tank if he goes somewhere else, but that class of coach gets the benefit of the doubt. Everything comes to an end at some point.

Well yeah. No one else cares about the Panthers in the slightest.

Pretty well established and widely-accepted that retread is used as a slight pejorative towards a middling, replacement-level type of coach whose teams don't tend to stnad out over time. I can't comment about every usage you're thinking of but no, those guys you list would not be retreads. I'd argue that Quinn is a bit above that level (and Pederson above that) but still not someone that would be near the top of my list for a new coach.

I don't know why you're posting this, as I'm just saying the term itself is stupid and meaningless.

Right up there with hater/hating as well.

Tied for 6th best in the league, with 2.5 seconds of pocket time. Make of that what you will. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing_advanced.htm

While Tepper is still an idiot until he shows he's not, IMO folks are making too big of a deal about the tenure length. Rhule's teams showed no improvements across 2+ years, and Tepper should have fired him after 2021 anyway (ignoring that he never should have bene hired int he first place); this year's team was absolutley inept and also showed zero improvement from week to week, both interms of players and strategy. It's not difficult to explain that improvement on the field buys time, even if it takes abit for the wins to come through. Dan Campbell in 2021 is the exact example of this - that team won very few games, but they showed steady improvement throughout the season and a drive to compete. Carolina has a massively deep hole to climb out of and one season may not be enough for a big change in the W/L column. While I was always against the Reich hire, this was the same barometer for him. There was likely much more behind the scenes that we aren't aware of, particularly regarding handling of Bryce, but it was ovious that the team was not growing at all. Talking heads like to make a big deal out of it but NFL coaches see all that and a frank conversation with Tepper can explain exactly what the issues were that led to Reich being let go, just like any other job on the planet. In the end it will come down to if Tepper has actually learned anything and if candidates actually believe him if he say he has. In generla though this particular aspect of the process is probably the easiest one.

I see someone has some time on their hands.

I'm not sure about that, but 2014 wasn't too far off of this, particularly in the receiver room, and Cam dragged them to the playoffs in the similarly-weak NFC South. There was some more talent on that OL for sure, but that year's tackles were on par with this year's guards.

My God, Cam with the offense the Hurts has would be amazing. We already know what magic Cam could do with an offense like Carolina's this year.

Wtf is LaFleur doing? This is negligent.