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Exactly where I'm at. Am completely neutral on the hire, which I guess is better than the strong confusion/aversion I felt with the Rhule and Reich hires. Could just be the apathy though.

Eh, the team was stagnating and steadily regressing through much of 2012. The final record was 7-9 but it took one of Ron's patented late-seaosn surges when the team was no longer playoff-relevant to rack up 4 consecutive wins. 2012 was not a pretty year.

I could not care less about Canales at this point but damn, is that a media outlet criticizing Rhule and Reich hires? I've been told so many times that they were only regarded positively... look at that. However, they also graded Fitterer... ouch.

It means we have no choice but to blindly trust that Tepper has actually learned something.

Who cares what any of them have to say? Talk is cheap and only serves to feed stupid fan bickering at this point - it shows up on the field or it doesn't count. At this point, they could all be dead silent until next season and it would be great. The signings, draft, and roster moves will speak louder than any words can.

If I did, it was a misunderstanding from your original post. Agreed that Tyrod is generally a solid backup and agreed that all the guys you mention are about the same level. Tyrod was actually on my list of bridge QBs back in 2020 before Rhule and Tepper caught the dumb and threw silly money at Teddy.

Yay, hooray, big day. Can't wait for the fluff pieces and coachspeak. Not fair to Canales but he's starting behind the 8-ball. Here's to seeing actual results.

You said the ideal vet for Bryce, which I interpreted as mentor. If that's not the case then understood. With respect to Tyrod, dude is exactly the same player as Alex Smith down to the same allergy to touchdowns, which cost him the job in Buffalo. In terms of 'threat to Bryce' he is no different than Dalton, who I never mentioned but who is just as likely to win games as Tyrod. Tyrod got 3 seasons as a starter. Dalton and Smith both had way more than that. Tyrod is defintely not above the Dalton line. Tyrod, Dalton... doesn't matter who is on the roster.

Tyrod Taylor is a poor man's Alex Smith, most definitely not 'a beast'. Bryce would be better served to have someone less risk adverse.

And/or perhaps the Morgan hire as well.

Uhhh... Ok. Were they afraid Bryce would force his way out?

There are plenty of folks in that thread that don't care that he's leaving. It is hardly one-sided.

The standard for Canales should be exactly as it was for Reich - steady and visible improvement thorughout the season with little to no regard for the overall record. If the team (players and staff alike) compete, grow, and show themselves to be strategically competent, then as long as they end 2024 playing much better football than they did at the start it's a positive season. If they don't then the leash should continue to be short, and if things carry along this same trend as this year we'll know that Tepper is an even more massive moron than he has appeared thus far.

Eh, but the college and retread attempts were terrible decisions from the start. I have no opinion on Canales at this point, but citing Rhule and Reich as reasons to try a different approach isn't accurate since they were crap from the outset.

For the sake of argument, how long is the list of guys that flamed out in similar situations? Willing to bet it's well longer than this. Takeaway: who the hell knows what's going to happen. At least he didn't hire Quinn.

Sure you can, in general, at any level. I can't comment on the current batch of candidates but it's common for guys to have been HC at a college program of some sort. I'm not pro or con in this area, just saying that it does make sense.

What the hell is Bryce Young going to do with a dowfield specialist like Evans? On the one hand it would be a giant waste of his talents, but in a silver lining sense perhaps Evans could make occasional lemonade out of those lemons Bryce likes to toss downfield. Not sure why he'd want to try though.

Maybe the candidates declined to talk a second time. We'll never know.

Ricky Manning Jr sighting... haven't heard his name in a while. Joking the Raiders to coach CBs. Was apparently a defensive assistant for Seattle. https://twitter.com/joearrigofsm/status/1750323502048227402

I agree with you and that's my point - it is about football, specifically him realizing he doesn't know jack and needs to get tf out of the way. He's done so much amage at this point that until we see it actually happen for an extended period of time, I'm not assuming that it will.

Yeah he is, at least in this regard. Nothing he's done so far proves otherwise, with most every action to date supporting that he knows nothing about football. Until that changes in calearly visible ways dude has zero benefit of the doubt.

There's being hopeful and there's the utter nonsense, 'get on board or gtfo' euphoric, and quite toxic, atmosphere that developed for god knows what reason last year around the team, staff, Burns, etc. No issue with the former, but the latter deserves derision and will hopefully be in short supply this year, replaced by a decent recognition of the reality of the team's situation. This will allow for actual discussion and recognition of multiple points of view, good and skeptical alike.

FWIW you weren't the only one who had the rose-colored glasses on... it was truly baffling how pervasive the nonsensical overoptimism was. I daresay a lot more folks will have a more realistic outlook this coming season.