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It will say more about the quality of their roster, and if that happened they will inevitably lose in the wild card or divisional yet again. They couldn't get over the hump with Brees, so what is Teddy gonna do?

Darnold at least has some tools to work with and some circumstances that make him more of an unknown. Teddy pretty clearly hit his ceiling as soon as he came into the NFL. Darnold should at least be more entertaining, either in 'winning games' fashion or 'losing with style' fashion. Either way, I'll give the FO some credit for taking action. Here's hoping it turns out well.

Only as long as they make every kicker wear 99 and every punter wear 72.

I was saying that ironically and agree with you on the whole. The value of QBs is at an all time high right now and there's not much the team can do about that but to have a guy like Jones suddenly elevate to the top doesn't seem to end well when it happens.

I do like how from forever it's been the 'Top 4', but in the past week or two has turned into the 'Top 5'.

Exactly. The issue comes in when such a QB is also unable to drive the ball down the field. Mahomes (an extreme example chosen to highlight the point) gets a lot of passing yards like this, but there is zero question about if he can also drive it down the field.

Brings me back to my original question though - who were they so concerned about taking Jones before the 12th pick?

Nah. Watched him week in and week out for many years here in KC and they're pretty comparable. Smith maybe throws a couple fewer interceptions. This is the QB that went 21 straight games without throwing a single TD to a WR that we're talking about here.

Because Alex Smith is Teddy if perhaps ever so slightly better. There is zero reason to sign him, especially so with Teddy on the roster.

Fell free to evaluate McShay's track record here and then decide if you stand by this statement as a positive or not. https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/_/id/23115321/todd-mcshay-nfl-draft-grades-every-first-round-qb-2008-plus-2018-top-qbs

Ah, well that certainly explains it. The guy I thought was CMC is probably not...

I recognize CMC... and that's all.

If true, who were they so worried about taking him before the 12th pick? Lynch and the Panthers guys laughing together ...

Those were $500 sunglasses, a$$hole.

Eh, need some details here. Seemingly not a position he should be in at all even if he's ultimately not charged but impossible to conclude anything without the full story. A touch more information found here. References to Cleveland's gang unit are a wrinkle. https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/03/new-orleans-saints-cornerback-marshon-lattimore-arrested-in-cleveland-sources-say.html

Mike Mamula, 2021 edition.

I take those with some grains of salt since they're coaches and were pretty clearly stuck with him regardless of how they felt. I struggle to imagine Brady coming to Carolina just to throw checkdowns and play dink-and-dunk football but it's very possible they really overestimated Teddy's ceiling as well.

Agreed with the overall sentiment, though I think Hurney had a bigger hand in the Teddy situation (though Rhule/Brady are not blame-free). I thought the team showed a lot of upside last year and the staff gets the same benefit of learning curve as Tepper did but damn was retaining Rivera and Hurney just a mystery.

Michigan State's "MSU Spartans Presented by Rocket Mortgage" is a new low.

My comments are always responses, so I'm not the one still drudging things. Catch up.

Considering their success taking Carolina's castoffs, it's been a sound strategy thus far and IMO says as much about the former Carolina regime as it does about Buffalo, if not more.

They're not wrong though. Teddy hasn't changed a bit since coming into the league, even on his Saints film, and the results were extremely predictable and I daresay even worse than the mediocrity many saw coming from the outset. It was a poor decision regardless of the money though the money makes it worse given the same highly-predictable results could have been had for much less, full stop.

But he did complain... publicly. Are you not remembering him throwing the staff under the bus regarding timing of playcalls? And always using 'we' when talking about failures? I'm not even saying he's necessarily wrong about any of that, but while he was far from the worst to come along he did not 'keep quiet and take it'.

Wahle, Ken, and Kemo all signed prior to 2005. Keyshawn was a knee-jerk acquisition for 2006 following Colbert dropping off a cliff at the end of 2005. That 2005 free agency period though was definitely one of Carolina's most active, especially in terms of big-name signings.

I think part of it too is how effortless DJ makes it look. Maybe not a big part, but he's just so smooth and not jarring in his movements that it seems like he's not moving as fast as he is. IMO, of course.