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And after 2018 if Tepper had moved on from Rivera like he should have. I'm fairly neutral about Flores but would take him over Rhule any day.

These points are a sunken cost fallacy. What's done is done but leaving Rhule in place means no development for players currently here or other organizational improvements, and that's the main reason ditching him now appears the right move. The lack of winning is front and center but Rhule's most egregious failures are the crappy roster moves, lack of strategic aptitude, and overall team regression during his tenure. Any coach that comes in and actually shows progress on the latter 3 retains their job even if the winning slowly comes, and all 3 are achievable in most any circumstance... pretty simple.

Agree completely on the first points but still disagree on the last. He was very clearly a tackle and even if he did end up a guard, how epically awful wanted guard play this year? I simply can't feel good about his comments and the implications toward their ability to evaluate talent and see the big picture.

It's not angry ears - the guy openly commented (again...) about their dumbass 'idral' OL traits shading prospect evaluation. Regardless of what he said about Horn the Slater comment is still alarming in and of itself, particularly after the short arms BS with Christensen.

Rhule just comes across as more of an idiot day by day.

I have trouble thinking anything Rhule says is honest/transparent at this point. Dude has zero credibility.

This alone should seemingly be fireable, as it is a direct reflection of coaching/strategic ability.

Exactly. Keeping Rhule for another year just makes things worse.

But it took Jay-Z 7 years to out-rap the other rappers out there. The process is working.

Which is precisely the point.

Keep on rearranging those deck chairs.

I'm die-hard NFL but have never been able to get into college sports, even growing up with (somewhat) local football programs like Nebraska in the 90s and K-State in the 2000s (Snyder and his cupcakes...) as well as KU basketball just down the road. I've tried to get interested but it all feels so fake/pointless and contrived. Even in the heart of what used to be the voracious KU/MU rivalry I just never got it. Anyway, this is the college thread so I'm the odd man out. Hopefully it's at least an entertaining game for everyone to watch.

The same PJ who instilled so much confidence that they signed Cam... I just don't get it. Love me some Cam and glad he had his Arizona game but damn, as a fan this stuff is just more and more irritating by the hour.

I'm going to sound like a contrarian here but college football is what MLB used to be (and still might be at times) - the best teams have the biggest payrolls and the top rarely ever changes. How the hell is it even interesting at this point?

Might be me reading too much into it but I feel like his choice of words, "A lot of people say..." when talking about the arm length was quite interesting. Specifically because that's exactly what Rhule said and Fitt negated it.

Exactly. Being liked and/or respected, if Rhule is, does not mean a leader is good at job. It also doesn't mean the players/employees are at their best either. The tape and record seemingly speak for themselves in this case, and it appears we'll have no choice but to roll on headlong into year 3.

Which naturally begs the question:

But Cam had unsolicited praise for Rhule... Lolz. Rhule is a flop as an NFL coach at this point in time and Cam knows it. He may not be the 2015 Cam of old but his football mind is still as sharp as ever, if not better.

I just don't understand how someone can look at the body of work across the last 2 seasons and think that things got better and/or are on an upward track. I truly don't.

Haven't watched or read the thread but let me guess - Carolina went up 7-0 or 7-3 early in the first quarter, then Tampa figured out the scheme and has scored 10 or 14 unanswered and Carolina's offense has been stopped cold?

Yup. Not good enough and/or coaching is too weak to counter the other team's adjustments.

The stuff that comes out just gets weirded and weirder. Even if it's nonsense, the fact that it's even somehow pausible says plenty.

It exposed Carolina's glaring weakness that they still can't counter, and coupled with the failure of the offense you get opponent's constantly facing short fields and racking up points. This is why yards are so low but points still in the bottom third.

It's one thing to pull the plug on something that hasn't yielded yet but still shows promise. It's another to not recognize a poor investment and move on. Carolina has the 5th worst record since 2018 and 2019 ( if someone doesn't count 2018 as a Tepper year). That's objectively poor so yes, the on-field results coupled with Tepper's involvement appears to be bottom 5.

Yup. Seen that movie before, will check things out again when it's over.