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Eagles losses are definitely to be enjoyed, and Kenny Pickett at QB is some extra icing.

What about those other games? What happened there that would have changed the results? Like today, for example - AZ sure shot themselves in the foot instead of putting it away. That game can be played in all directions.

The team is fortunate that Arizona wanted to lose as much as they apparently did. W in the column though.

AZ just giving this game away. Can't get any easier at this point. Can the offense take it?

Arizona just doing everything they can to not win.

AZ defense figuring Carolina out in the second half.

Both teams trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Why did that clown not go out of bounds? Cardinals doing their best to lose it.

Yikes. Terrible throw on a wide open route for the win.

Got to start watching at the start of the 2nd half. Great TD throw, 30 pts is enough to win an NFL game. AZ hanging around though, need another drive from the offense.

There is of course nuance to the situation that can't be summed up in a single sentence, but if the team is 3-11 at this point next year the odds are that there has been no development and bad personnel moves were made. Arguments like these are why Rhule got the entirely undeserved year 3 - if it's clear that someone doesn't have it, you don't sit around and waste time for the sake of 'consistency/stability'. That said, such a scenario would again point back at Tepper as the root dysfunction. Who knows if/when that would ever get corrected.

Yeah but how many of those were Big Time Throws or Gold Star Plays or whatever random-ass esoteric made-up stat one might use to make things look better/more interesting than they might actually be?

Yup. Rivera and Hurney both should have been gone after 2018. It was all downhill from there

This is really the biggest thing. At minimal points has the offense seemed elevated due to him at QB. When things were great across the board, he looked OK, even good from all reports. When things are not great, he has not shown little if any ability to elevate and overcome that. That is not where an NFL team should want to hang their hat, and competition should absolutely remain on the table.

Which changes nothing about Carolina's inability to extend this season as was suggested and makes that window actually even longer than 2 years.

Can't extend a UDFA until after their second season.

Team sucked. Dallas walked all over them, especially the OL. Feels gross just saying that.

That's really the crux of it. Bryce was already an outlier at a historical physical disadvantage when he came into the league. The standard of proof was already greater and that is just the objective reality of it. Couple that with the poor first batch of work and that standard remains arguably even greater than before.

And Bryce with another terrible underthrow. Dude's biggest weakness for sure.

Maybe you should go back and watch the prior 17 or so before judging off of 3-4. Perhaps read up on trends, stats, and sample sizes as well. And again, where am I judging anything? I have pretty clearly acknowledged that Dallas is whopping the whole team today.

Hater is a vapid and intellectually empty term in these discussions. Anyone that uses it in a discussion where there is clear nuance has their own obvious biases. It's an eyeroll inducer.

Yup. It was 17 or so games of middling to outright atrocious play and 3-4 of improvement. The sample sizes speak for themselves... just takes time, and time is very clearly on one side of the argument right now.

This thread is about Bryce alone so makes sense to discuss him specifically one way or another even when it is a team failure.

Yeah, this thread. Lolz. Y'all are funny... pendulum already swinging back. https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/266031-salute-to-evero-and-this-defense/?tab=comments#comment-6614088