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Exactly what I was going to respond with. Arm strength ain't everything, but it is a tremendous advantage.

We've seen the Teddy Bridgewater experiment firsthand and laughed as Brees failed year after year once his average at best arm strength wanted circa 2013. Have to have ample amounts of both.

The defense giving up 30 (plus the pick 6) deserves plenty of blame as well. Scoring 34 in the NFL should be a win.

I just don't have any sympathy here. He was in the process of taking it off in the end zone as soon as he stood up in the end zone and it came off in the white; if he's a yard closer to the goal line this is all a moot point since it would have been entirely in the end zone. Gotta be more disciplined than that, and I'm confident he and the team will (not so sure about the NFL though). It's not lost on me that the kicker missed a field goal earlier and should have made the kick anyway. This isn't on DJ exclusively by any means, and I daresay that the penalty was even fairly minor. An NFL kicker should make at least one of those two.

Please... DJ was not thinking about the field or wording of a rule when the helmet came off. This argument is ludicrous. Helmet stays on, flag doesn't get thrown. It's that simple and the team will learn from it. Hell, might make DJ even more fiery.

It's always been called this way, if inconsistently, and he sure wasn't thinking about a rule when he did it. Was a dumb thing to do and he lost the flag roulette. Is what it is. I'm a major DJ supporter. Guy just made a mistake that cost the team. It happens.

Diggs took his helmet off after he scored just like Moore and just like Cam last year. From the NFL rule book, screenshot below, this is a penalty, full stop. You are wrong.

Yeah, you're right. Sounds like that changed in 2019 in exactly the way you describe, as before that it was always applied on the kickoff.

It absolutely was a penalty and always has been since the rule was instituted. Hell, They even flagged Diggs for throwing his helmet after the Minnesota miracle vs the Saints but picked it up given the circumstances. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/15/stefon-diggs-helmet-throw-would-have-mattered-only-if-time-was-left-on-the-clock/ However, this article also states that the penalty would apply to the kickoff rather than the extra point try and that was my understanding as well, so the rule was either misapplied or the article was wrong.

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, 2001 style, with another creative way to lose.

Seriously? Knew the dude was a pretentious douche but this is the first time I ever recall hearing something like this.

You're not wrong, but Campbell was always more solid than a lot of those listed. 87 TDs to 60 ints, completion pecentage over 60%, 7 comebacks and 10 GWDs in 79 starts. Again, not exceptional by any means but seemingly a lot more potential.

Not the first or last man to seemingly wreck his family for his career, but ouch.

Man, Jason Campbell is a real 'I wonder' on this list. Dude had a differnet coach almost every year and was constantly shuffled, which while partly a product of his play also mad eit impossible for him to settle in anywhere. I'm not saying he would have been a star, but he showed some big flashes.

If the DB didn't stuff arm the receiver in the face they may not have called it.

Lolz. Easy to see even from the outside. Interesting comment.

He isn't, though that doesn't mean that he sitll never well. You're not missing anything.

Call the position whatever you like (SS, OLB, etc), the bottom line is that he was up around the LOS much more his rookie year than he was last year and has been this year. Chinn needs to be close to the ball to maximize his skills, not playing center field.

Snow started this crap with him last year.

Perhaps as important, if not moreso, is Phil Snow not being his DC.

Compared to Erving loafing vs Atlanta and letting Darnold get rocked...

Duh... I completely missed it. However, I am also completely blaming Rhule for my lack of engagement.