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Or maybe he just sucks at receiver, like how he couldn't crack that loaded KC receiver corps either. Not saying that's the case, but seems within the realm of possibility.

Except we have several years of 'film' on Recih in Indy to know what he is, a coach whose ceiling is Rivera-esque at best. It was an uninspired hire and continunes to be so. The positive vibe here is hoping Tepper learns from yet another mistake of coaching hire and the next one is a selection with actual potential and ceiling. That would be a great positive.

In what is really a different era of football, with an all-time defense. Anything can happen but that is absolutely a big outlier.

He really thought he was outsmarting the entire NFL with the Rhule hire, like all the buzzword talk of 'sport science' as if the rest of the league wasn't already doing it.

That was my exact thought, fhe way Tepper was publicly running his mouth about the QB position before the 2020 season was even over.

The assumption here is that Tepper learns his lesson, as I noted in my post. If it's more of the same then sure, the best may hesitate, but things can change quickly (e.g. Jacksonville) if people making decisions take accountability.

That's utter BS. There are only 32 NFL HC jobs in the world and there are always plenty of people who want one. Tepper just sucks at choosing them and hopefully he can now prove he recognizes a mistake and then prove that he's learned to bring in a consultant and get the hell out of the way of football people.

That's what happens when someone does something as monumentally stupid as attempt to rebrand Twitter.

No need for the melodrama - most people still would have retained TD given that he signed a low-risk contract wiht only $8MM guaranteed for the $36MM, 5 year deal. There is always a financial point where risk and reward balance out, and that's why folks are saying that Horn's next contract should be incentive-laden. Question is, will a player like Horn accept that kind of deal if he continues to not be healthy? If not then yeah, the risk/reqard profile may not be right for Carolina and/or other teams. That's the reality of how it works.

Burns and Brown were both on the table but Fitterer said no to them. Screwed the pooch twice with potential Burns trades, as having DJ would be fantastic for Bryce.

Dude hasn't played a game since week 3 of the 2020 season and has basically been non-stop rehabbing this whole time from unfortunate injuries. Let's pump the brakes here and just see if he can even stay healthy through a game.

The Chiefs are markedly better at identifying talent and their receivers suck; they still let him go over roster-bottom guys like Richie James and Justyn Ross. I don't disagree that our staff is questionable but Marsette is not a hidden gem.

Maybe, but then it's processing and not 'smart'. I had the same thought watching this video. It's great football instinct, discipline, and athleticism, but not particularly 'smart' in the traditional sense as the other poster described it.

That was around the time of peak 'preseason doesn't matter' and 'the staff knows best' nonsense, so 'Fitterer stole a receiver from the reciever-starved Chiefs' was right in line with the delusion.

As was said at the time of the trade when people were claiming KC's receivers were 'stacked' and that's why they let him go, he's not a good receiver at this point. Says a ton of he can't get snaps over guys like TMJ.

The shot was short and inside, a very dangerous location, and Thielen did not have him beat - the CB was literally in his pocket and if he turns his head that's a breakup, if not pick. It was not a good throw. Get it over Thielen's head and out of danger and perhaps, but we are so starved for QB play that this type of lucky slop (in the pool-shot sense) completion gets lauded. The TD throw was notably more impressive IMO.

This play again? He spun away from pressure, which was good, and chucked an ill-advised ball downfield to a well-covered receiver for a fortunate catch. It was a good outcome this time, yes, but the throw itself was not very good and will end badly a notable portion of the time if he keeps it up like that. As I said in another thread, he made many throws and plays today that were much better than this.

This response pretty much sums it up. Players have to make the team better as a whole, nature of the business. Again, who cares if the media cares about players? Start winning and they'll start caring about who is on the roster. No, we suck because the team is bad. We've sucked for years with 'homegrown stars', and Burns has been a part of that. How's it going with him on the team now? He's not a gamechanger and his game is one-dimensional, and the team has been pathetic for years with him on it. In terms of watching, Tepper killed my passion years ago. I'm as apathetic as I've ever been, which is great for objectivity and not being tied to single players. If the team starts winning, the interest comes back. The best team in Panthers history did not have a Brian Burns on it and spreading that monetary and draft capital value out amongst multiple positions gives the team a better chance of winning. Look at the Chiefs. They have Mahomes, Kelce... and who? Who else on that roster is a 'star'? No one, really, but they win, and therefore they're relevant since that's something you worry about. I live here in KC and sure, folks were bummed when Tyreek got traded and Mathieu didn't re-sign, but that Super Bowl last year sure made them forget. Burns is not on that level, and any player that isn't is expendable. Hell, as they showed with Tyreek, even some that are are still expendable. Carolina needs that mindset.

Who cares if players are known or not or if players are homegrown or not? If a team starts winning, their players get known... funny how that works. And not wanting to take a smart risk for a team (be it Burns trade or just in general) due to fear of a bad outcome is a loser's mentality. Tolerating the status quo and overpaying for homegrown talent is a big part of why Carolina has been irrelevant for much of its existence, an irrelevance that you seem to be indicating is a valid thing to avoid. 7 winning seasons in almost 30 years - why continue executing the same failed strategy over and over?

The fact that Burns is tied to the Rams trade that included picks in 2025 means that his unique situation is relevant until at least that point, so get used to continued discussion. It's just the reality. As far as game threads go, with great salary comes great scrutiny, and in-game performance for the top players is always a point of discussion. Someone vying for top dollar that should be showing it on the field is going to get the same scrutiny. As above, it's also just the reality. And debtaing a player's value is not 'pocket watching', a term that you seem to be derogatorily using. I couldn't care less what Burns himself gets paid and have no issue with players trying to get as much as they can, but it does impact a given team. Discussing a player's value relative to that team's situation and potentially what that value might be is valid and not 'pocket watching'.

He clearly is in this range or he would have already signed, and this has been discussed to death.

Truth. There were multiple but Chark had one later in the game along the sideline that was just brutal.

So he led a receiver with a throw and the receiver ran under it, also something every NFL QB should be able to do. I really don't understand the desperation to turn this into something more than it is at this point, a chuck to a receiver that had a defender literally all over him that worked out because the CB didn't get his head around. If that ball is caught with Thielen not having to turn around then we have a discussion, but the play itself was very risky and not an impressive strength throw, which again was the whole premise of the first comment I responded to. Bryce had another game showing improvement and made other throws and plays that were more impressive on a technical level, e.g the TD throw. Acting like this throw itself was anything more than NFL QB table stakes is just silly, and it's not an insult to Bryce to recognize that.