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5 passing yards... El Oh El.

Why in the world would someone in that position ever admit that openly? Just mind-boggling.

Except, he doesn't have every trait, and also doesn't have the benefit of the doubt afforded by proven track record of these guys (moreso Wilson than Murray, obviously)? Comparing single game performance like this is ridiculous, just like trying to draw vast conclusions based on a handful of rookie games is also ridiculous. Bryce appears a very limited QB at this point but the jury is definitely still out on everything except his arm strength/lack thereof, which is the same as it's always been.

The Texans was a spoiler game.

Very few that didn't show success in their first stop.

No need for the 'at drafting' qualifier. There isn't really anything they don't suck at right now.

Who the hell comes up with these totally esoteric, arbitrary 'stats'/'milestones'? Do people actually care that much?

Carolina is 5-10 all-time vs the Cowboys including the playoff wins. Just sayin'.

"At that depth, implosion means you become less a biology thing and more a physics thing."

Not my job to hire coaches, nor am I obligated to solve these self-inflicted problems. As far as being a 'real fan', just can it with that crap already. I've been one since 1995 but damn, fanhood doesn't mean you have to tolerate acute incompetence and can't call out the suck when it's there. If you still feel like being a cheerleader then go for it, but the rest of us tired of the easily-avoidable errors Tepper and his people keep making will keep discussing the objective reality of the team. This is the last time I will be responding to you on this topic. You have not proven any point at all and will apparently continue to keep the rose-colored blinders on. We don't have much in common at this point.

Like watching Teddy all over again, but somehow even worse.

2001 team would have a good shot. 2010 might if the running game got rolling, as that defense was pretty competent.

Reich was an offensive coordinator and not an HC, so anything he did there is largely irrelevant to his HC performance, even moreso since he has been an HC for 5 years now and has proven bad at it. There are many people that are good coordinators/assistants and bad HCs. It is what it is. And here you are again talking about Harbaugh when I've never said anything anywhere about him, especially not in this thread. I have expressed no opinion about Panthers coaches other than that Reich was a poor hire, and that view is sure proving correct. Take your Harbaugh bullcrap up with someone who cares.

What a stupid response. As I said, it was such an obviously terrible and desperate choice that Reich gets no benefit of the doubt. I was critical of his hiring from the start and think Reich sucks as a head coach, just like he sucked in Indy, but it has nothing to do with 'hating'. I also said nothing about Harbaugh so you can take that BS elsewhere. As to 'he cheat the game', I have no idea what that is even supposed to mean.

Why the hell did it require hindsight? I get the logic behind it but it was an incredibly stupid, desperate, short-sighted decision from the start that was the culmination of a bunch of ineptitude. It was the on-field admission that they know the offense is pathetic and are powerless to do anything about it, totally lost. I don't give a crap if he 'admitted it' later. There are some decisions that are just so egregiously bad that there is no explanation other than utter stupidity, the kind that you don't ever want to see from a supposedly-professional coach.

Eh, i'm not on the Bryce train at all but that's pretty tpyical learning curve for a rookie. May not fit the 'super processor' narrative but Bryce himself probably doesn't have anything to do with that. From an objective perspective though, and being the lover of defense that I am, that play was fantastic. The Bears did exactly what you describe and it damn near worked to perfection to ice the game. As a general football fan you love to see it.

It really is like 2010 all over again but worse given Bryce's limitations, the damage this year may be doing to his development, no offensive studs like Smitty, Gross, and Kalil to buoy things, and no top 1st rounder at the end of the tunnel.

While Bryce's arm strength concerns are still valid IMO, what is really alarming is the absolutely atrocious gameplanning this far into the season. A few of us called out the Reich hire as highly questionable and uninspired and that's exactly what this scheme is, highly questionable and uninspired. The lack of evolution and improvement - not even saying wins, just *improvement* - as the season has gone on is highly alarming.

That ball also only went 30 yards through the air. Most high school QBs can do that on their sleep. Not dogging on Bryce by saying that, but rather that it is not representative of the arm concern.

Yup. Burns is a notch or two better in pure pass rush ability but is less consistent and CJ was a strong run stopper. He perhaps got a bit more on that contract due to the situation but I never had a major problem with it, though he was never quite the same after that leg whip in 2013. POS Patriots.

I think their plan was that Bryce would somehow elevate everyone with his 'point guard's abilities, as stated by Tepper, and that they're still hoping that magically happens. Beyond that, they have no tangible plan. We'll see how things look as FA approaches.

OOU.