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Back after making some dinner, just in time to see Baltimore fumble. Lolz.

Lamar starting to crack. Bolton should have had that.

They've about hit the minimum talent level on offense. Mahomes is working magic but there are limits to everything.

It was a definite risk moving on from Alex Smith but it was painfully clear he wasn't going to get them over the hump. That said, no way they had any idea Mahomes would become what he has.

That offense definitely looked limp in the second half of the season. For whatever reason though they figured it out come playoff time after somewhat skidding their way in.

What are you talking about 'not a very good team'? Not as good a receiving corps as years past, true, but the defense has been legit almost all season, Mahomes elevates the entire offense, and they have hit their stride these past weeks. That said, I get the Chiefs fatigue. It's a final four with 3 teams that get a lot of press and then the Lions as the only real interesting twist.

It was nonsense in the first place and just looks dumber now. This game has been very evenly called.

Y'all still yapping about this?

They're gonna call that for any QB 100% of the time, and the Van Not thing was stupid after they let both teams get away with a bit.

Got better in regular season but you have to do it when it counts most.

No they aren't. Baltimore is melting down since the Chiefs aren't caving.

The Chiefs and QBs catching their own passes in the playoffs...

I get they were playing with house money after that turnover but big missed opportunity coming away with nothing on that drive.

That screen pass to the dirt and now the zero awareness strip sack... Playoff Lamar may be lurking in the shadows...

And for the umpteenth time 'success' doesn't necessarily mean wins and losses. There were still plenty of things to fairly assess Bryce on and he was not impressive on those things in his control. Coupled with the obvious objective physical limitations, it is fair to say his singular performance was poor and that he has challenges to improvement that other QBs don't face. What's done is done. We're going to have to watch if he hits his Teddy 2.0 potential or not and hope the team around him becomes perfect enough to enable it. Not an ideal situation though.

Once a true assessment is made yeah, that should be the case, but while certain things may be reading apparent a true assessment that can and should take some time. The business side can unfortunately have a significant impact on the leeway provided in said assessment.

*Assumed* baseline talent, maybe. Flip your question around: if a 7th rounder had played like Bryce, would they be given another year? If much less likely, why? The only answer is investment (and some perception factors from the folks who made that decision). I'm not suggesting Carolina move on, though I'd love it if a quality prospect somehow magically fell into their laps, but rather commenting on your point. The only real thing keeping a player around in your scenario is draft investment, a.k.a. Zach Wilson.

Depends. Are they playing better overall than they were in week 1 and are the coaches actually adapting their strategies?

I'm not even being negative really, more just amazed at how far the franchise has sunk to have this type of stuff be considered very positive. And I don't know about all NFL coaches but we have sure had a couple now that didn't seem to understand some obvious basics.

Don't confuse apathy/skepticism with misery. I daresay that some folks labeled as 'miserable', which has been thrown at me many times over the last year, are actually pretty loose and free with the weight of any kind of expectation lifted. Impossible to be disappointed and very easy to be pleasantly surprised when things are as bad as Tepper and his decisions have made them. Makes it easier to be objective as well, but there are probably more slight-leans toward optimism this year vs the BS that was going on last year.

Who says folks on that side of the fence are miserable? Very inaccurate assumption.

That's where we're setting the line now for really positive takes? Basic coaching 101 and not being a dumbass with scheme and personnel? I'll give you that it would be a nice step up from the last 2 guys if it happens, but my god is the bar low for this franchise.

Yeah, things seem different on the surface but once you dig in a bit it's like... was the process really that different and do these results really seem outside of Tepper's tendencies? Sportsology is getting tossed around but who actually knows how much their input factored in on either of/both of the hires. it's just useless to speculate or expect any different until the roster decisions start rolling in and, thereafter, the actual football starts.

It's not about batting balls, or not just about that anyway. His vision was clearly impacted at times and it manifests through his tendency to bail on pockets and his massive dropbacks as well as other ways. There are confounding factors of course, but his physical stature will always pose some degree of challenge that simply doesn't exist for QBs 5 inches taller.

To a point, yeah, but if that were true then I have to think at some point that Fitterer would have pointed to the product and just been like, "Look what you're doing, levae me/us alone." Assuming this scenario is true, even if he would have been better at the job without Tepper meddling then the spinelessness alone is enough to knock his grade way down. We'll never really know though.