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A Carolina fan favorite up close here at Chiefs camp today.

In a general grouping: Rashard Anderson, Bruce Nelson, Eric Shelton, Dwayne Jarrett, Jason Peter (could've had hometown Vinnie Holliday...), Ellison, all of 2009, Mitch Marrow.

Or traumatize any youth of America with deplorable dancing.

Not sure they'd make a decision like that a week into camp but from a strategic viewpoint it makes sense to play it up and buy time. If the team sucks and it's a lost year then yeah, slow play the injury and save the higher draft pick. If the team is competing and Wentz may elevate then take the chance and bring him on back.

There's a line that crosses from competing into being a dumbass, and Ibe went over it. An unfortunate circumstance but a fringe guy like that has minimal, if any, margin for such lapses. If he's gone it's no one's fault but his own.

Man, that was just cheap and will be flagged, if not ejected, every time these days. Very poor decision on his part.

That clip makes me giggle.

Even in models where the coach 'reports to' the GM or some other executive on a paper org chart, that doesn't mean they don't have control. This notion of Carolina's structure being better because it's somehow special and revolutionary (which it really isn't) is silly and worthless anyway unless/until the team actually shows that the approach yields above-average and continuous results. With that said, only time will tell if that's the case and because of that it cuts the other way too - no one can definitely say that the model/approach is ineffective.

Some things can be toughed out but signs like that should never be ignored - good on you for calling and then actually following that advice. To join you in this point, when I was a kid me left foot started hurting and swelled up like a black balloon in the span of only a couple of hours. My parents opted to immediately take me to the hospital, which was good because I had necrotizing fasciitis (internal flesh-eating bacteria) and we were told that any further delay would almost certainly have resulted in my foot being amputated. As it was, some major antibiotics got it back under control and I kept my foot.

Probably just means there isn't anything overly positive/noteworthy to share.

Jimmy Clausen is a QB that doesn't deserve as much shade as he gets/got. He was not a good QB but you could tell he was trying his best at all times and he created exactly zero drama here or anywhere, even with the short stick he was handed in Carolina. Guy conducted himself as a pro. Teddy, on the other hand, is a middling QB who appeared nigh uncoachable during his year here, poorly handled QB 101 situations as a supposed 7-year veteran leader, and a whole lot of signs point to him being a guy interested in using burner accounts to defend himself on social media and get into spats with fans. I don't agree with personal attacks of course and he certainly stepped into a tough scenario between being Cam's successor and being overpaid like he was, but he did next to nothing to help himself out. He earned his shade fair and square. Honestly, I struggle to think of an ex-Panther not named Carruth that I like less at this point based on their time as a Panther. Even DeAngelo Williams at least showed some growth and humility early in his career before spouting off.

Quote from Fangio today (not in that article but seen elsewhere) “Checkdowns are good, but you need more than checkdowns.” Lolz.

But I've been told that Tepper has instituted the Appaloosa Model® where he retains all control and exercises final rights on all decisions. ...

Teddy was already such a bland, timid, uninteresting, and uninspiring QB, let alone factoring in the post-Cam effect People knew it was a poor choice even if it was expressed incorrectly at times and lo and behold he turned out to be exactly as expected. Your first sentence nails it. Put another way, Teddy the QB may not be a loser but he sure isn't a winner either. He just... is.

That's the joke.

I didn't say anything originally about the OL - you were responding to a different poster in that comment. With respect to Miller bringing a player back isn't the same as bringing in someone new to address a weak position. He's a known quantity who started for a line that many perceive as weak last year. Is such a signing really addressing the position?

Source? ...

Looks like I posted right as you did. The joys of message boards.

You're mistaken here. It very clearly indicates that vaccinated people who contract it are as contagious, which is independent of the fact that vaccinated people contract it at a much lower rate. For example: https://www.umassmed.edu/news/news-archives/2021/07/delta-variant-spurring-uptick-in-covid-19-cases-largely-in-unvaccinated/

Mayo is indeed gross, so at least it's an accurate typo.

I agree completely that there has been a lot of change, and also agree that there were some pretty positive signs last year. I was especially pleased to see them move on so quickly from mistakes and make on-field switches like benching Whitehead and cutting Apple, things that we never really saw in the past. Encouraging stuff. The premise of the question though was if winning the first 4 in quality fashion would be enough to get you (me in this case) to effectively believe this is a playoff team/reach that level of excitement. for you that answer is yes, and more power to you. My answer though, and that of many others as well, at this exact moment is no, largely because we've seen such streaks time and again. It's not enough to look like things are different; they need to show longer-term results backing up that things truly are different. That's not an unfair metric IMO. With that said though we're only at the start of camp. This team could show some crazy development and I may change my tune at that time if the performance warrants it. For now though the burden is on the ownership and staff to keep doing what they say they're going to do and for that to yield tangible results worthy of increased excitement.

Quantity doesn't automatically equal quality. Also, unless I missed something (always possible) Carolina only signed 2, Erving and Elflein, and both are higher risk/reward signings that might not pan out. I think they were wisely selected to try to minimize downside but it's not like Carolina added proven guys like Brown and Thuney. IMO signing Reiff instead of Erving for nearly the same money would have been better on paper, but Erving is younger and they seem to be valuing versatility. For all I know they did try to get guys like Reiff but those players opted to go elsewhere.

Last year's overall results were pretty much 'your daddy's Panthers', to use your own words. A couple of wins to start this year doesn't change that. There is promise, sure, but neither Rhule nor Tepper have actually accomplished anything yet to judge them otherwise. You make it sound like he's done something... but he hasn't. The rubber is now meeting the road and the jury is still out. Which is what I and others are actually judging him on by wanting a larger sample. Objectivity does not equal negativity. You're giddily optimistic, and that's fine - more power to you. But folks having a bar higher than 4 wins over 4 teams that were horrible last year and/or lost an HOF QB and is now starting the upgraded The Golden Calf of Bristol 2.0 in his place, which was again the question posed in this thread, is a valid opinion.

Corps is the right word if talking about an entire specific position group. Just sayin'.