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Guy had 8.5 years with some of the most talented Panthers to ever wear the jersey and couldn't string together 2 winning seasons. If he does it in Washington then good for him, but there were as many troughs as peaks. Ultimately need better than that, even if it's a bit tough to find.

Yup. Good guy, sometimes good coach, was time to make a change. Looking like the team came up on the losing end of the bet this time so we'll see what the future holds.

I assume they would, particularly the bigger names like Snow. They likely wouldn't be retained in Carolina and I'm not sure anything has been put on film that would compel folks to add them to their NFL staffs at any level comparable to where they'd be with Rhule in college.

Whoa, that's one hell of a typo; I've no idea why I wrote that. Tepper/Hurney is what I meant and what it should obviously be, and the overall sentiment doesn't change.

I daresay the general pubic is not aware of this. I live in KC and most folks here aren't aware of it, so the attention he would draw as an HC would absolutely bring it to light on a broad scale. The local backlash on Britt Reid, particularly once his history came to light, was not insignificant.

Always knew that was a possibility but hoped it wouldn't be the case. Unfortunately, looking like Gettleman chose poorly. Really need to get some folks with credible NFL experience more involved with this football operation, and perhaps Fitterer and Morgan were the start of that.

How is that even possible at the NFL level? Like, that's so bad it seems like an active effort to fail.

Rhule/the staff sucking and Teddy being a crap starter aren't mutually exclusive by any means. The difference last year was that Teddy had years of film on him and the Carolina staff still had some benefit of the doubt. This year though, Rhule and Brady in particular just really seem out of their depth. With respect to Teddy's comments, it was still a weak move to toss it out as he did, even worse since it was sandwiched with an 'i don't make excuses, but...'. Moving on was absolutely the right move but that doesn't mean Rhule, Brady, etc al don't suck as well.

Yup. Appaloosa Model on full display today.

It does not look effortless today.

An no holding call vs Reddick there.

Moore has slipped this year, no question. I feel it's an aberration though.

I completely forgot that he coached Chicago.

Eh, Mangum had some big quads. In Fox's mind that probably counted.

Pretty sure it was you who said this exact nonsense when Teddy's contract was being discussed and lo and behold, Teddy agreed to a major restructure for less money because he stood to gain in the big picture. Sam doesn't even have to give up any money in this scenario like Teddy did. It's all speculation at this point anyway. There are a lot of different possibilities that certainly include Sam still being around next year, and this thread is just one of them.

I typically agree but given the size, I think it depends on how the team finishes the year. If they turn it on and progress then it may be advantageous to have a big chunk of that available next season. If they suck and backslide, making Rhule's seat hot, then perhaps you take the hit to be completely clear for 2023 in case Rhule falls flat on his face in year 3 and is replaced.

Greatest in the NFL, as voted on by the fans.

He literally just stood straight up and invited the DT to drive him directly into the backfield. Like, how does an NFL player even display such a god-awful lack of technique?

Wtf is Trent Scott (#78) doing in that clip? That is shockingly atrocious.

I don't really agree with the poster you were responding to but being a better coach than Rhule isn't a high bar at the moment, and even now Carolina still made the right overall move in letting Ron go. His time in Carolina had run its course and he's picked up right where he left off there in Washington. Issue in Carolina is did they choose the right guy to replace him, and while that's still TBD the data are building and it's a mystery. With respect to Rhule 'Gives up on QBs' isn't accurate at all, but it's absolutely fair to call the talent evaluation into question. Teddy is a bottom tier starter at best (looks exactly the same in Denver) and Sam was a reclamation project that started strong and then nosedived and ultimately sidelined due to injury. Cam was damaged goods when Rhule started and he and his rookie staff had some tough lessons with the failed Teddy experiment last year, and unfortunately may have repeated them with Sam. Lot of reason to think Cam is as much a business and football decision but no question he brings the offense up. To some up: Ron is better if only due to actual NFL experience (starting Haskins with the playoffs on the line and cutting him the next day... hilarious), but not tough to do given what Rhule has shown to date, and the QB situation is a product of talent evaluation much moreso than coaching.

They haven't found a solution to the 5 and 6 iso(ish) and power that come straight at Burns and Reddick. Not knocking those guys specifically but I get vibes of that 9-wide defense Philly was lambasted for in years past.

Or that's what Cam wanted.

What a playcall! Complete redemption after that sneak.

What a god awful call at that distance.