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May be the dumbest thing I ever read

It’s possible but far more unlikely. Wouldn’t you rather be in position to draft who you think is the best prospect than to hope someone falls to you

Classic whatabouttery. We want to win consistently and have a chance to win a SB every year. There is no magic bullet to win the SB, but without a franchise QB in today’s NFL you almost have no chance. And it is statistically more likely you find one at top of the draft like Peyton Manning than 6th round like Brady

So Cam Newton was not worth the 2-14 season in 2010 because we failed to win the Superbowl? Or Joe Burrow to Bengals at #1?

PJ is the next Kurt Warner, haven’t you heard?

Don’t you know you’re supposed to overreact to one win

If Trevor Lawrence was on this team it’s probably a playoff team. Jags have too many other holes. It’s pretty stupid to say it doesn’t work. You can build around s franchise QB, but you can’t win without one no matter how good you are at everything else

Not asking players or coaches to do that. I am speaking as a fan what I wish for. a GM can influence it by trading away assets we don’t intend to keep

Yes yet we’re being attacked for being Panthers fans who want us to get a high draft pick and rebuild properly.

This is my definition of 'tanking'. Nobody is asking the coach or players to throw the games, but stop with the euphoria about winning the NFC south and going to the playoffs. It's stupid and unrealistic. I want to see our players develop, work hard, show improvement and ultimately lose meaningless games so they can actually win meaningful games next year and beyond.

Tanking is when you trade away your present assets for future. That's what the CMC trade represents and we should probably do it with a couple of more players (e.g. Shaq Thompson) if the cap situation allows for it. Let the team play to win, but I hope they play well and lose.

That's what we're saying too, we just hope they don't win meaningless games that costs us our future franchise QB.

Once every 3 years? We're talking about being in purgatory for a decade if we don't figure it out.

He’s a developmental prospect, a third round pick. We need another QB who has a stronger chance of developing into a franchise QB

It’s not about trying to lose, it’s about prioritizing the future which Panthers have already done by trading CMC. Knowing that we need to draft a QB in the top portion of the draft, I would rather they don’t win a game or two so they don’t end up needlessly trading away picks to move up. This is a fan’s and perhaps even a GM’s perspective. A head coach or players always want to win and they should try their best. My hope is that they will do enough to keep hopes for the future but not too much where the future is another 6-11 or 7-10 season in perpetuity because we didn’t tank when it mattered to draft a future franchise QB. Today’s victory was sweet and team is still in it but let’s be realistic. PJ Walker isn’t a franchise QB and hopefully that means we’re in good positions to draft one in April.

Carolina: Great tanking trade. The Panthers are gold right now. Even with the win over Tampa Bay Sunday (I bet David Tepper was very quietly perturbed), they enter the last 10 games of the season 2-5, with the third overall pick in the 2023 draft. That’s almost certain to fluctuate in the next 10 weeks. But this is a draft stocked with quarterbacks. None is perfect, though. The Panthers may well get to have their pick of Bryce Young (Alabama), C.J. Stroud (Ohio State) or Will Levis (Kentucky), wherever they pick. After trading their best player, and with a mishmash at quarterback, it’ll be a surprise if they don’t pick in the top five next April, with some draft capital to move up if need be. They already had picks near the top of the first, second and fourth rounds, and this deal adds the Niner picks in rounds two, three and four. Young, Stroud and Levis might not be Burrow, Herbert and Allen from recent top tens, but one or two will get hot in February and March. If it happens that the Panthers need to trade up a slot or two for the passer of their dreams, five picks in the second, third and fourth rounds will be good chips to play. Credit GM Scott Fitterer for playing poker correctly. Even though the Rams were involved, L.A. never got close to the Niners’ offer of three picks in the top 130 (estimate) of next year’s draft plus a 2025 pick in round five. Fitterer got more for a back with McCaffrey’s injury history than he had a right to hope for. Re tanking: It shouldn’t be a dirty word. If I’m a Panthers’ fan, I want my team to tank so as to gain the highest possible pick next year. What difference does it make if Carolina is 3-14 or 6-11? Winning five or six would mean the Panthers likely wouldn’t have their pick of the litter at quarterback, and that’s all that should matter to the franchise in the next six months https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/10/24/geno-smith-peter-king-fmia-week-seven/

What are you talking about? Richardson essentially tanked the 2010 season and we ended up with Cam Newton? I say that worked out just fine

49ers haven’t. They gave up three 1’s for Lance and now a load of picks for CMC

Or maybe assures we get the QB we need

CMC would never quit on a team but I think he is happy to be traded to a better situation and a chance to compete in the playoffs.

He’s the superior version of Deebo Samuel so it will be interesting how they match up

Aren’t we supposed to have a cap specialist on staff?

Shaq and DJ next in the firesale

For me the coach is useless without the franchise QB