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Notice who’s holding the pads

Yes they’re my expectations and others clearly agree. Who are you to speak for what’s realistic? winning this weak division IS realistic

Several of the recent posters don't understand the topic here. It's expectations of the season. All I'm saying is I'm not willing to lower my expectations for what this coaching staff and GM needs to achieve this year. This same offensive line won 7 games last year. This same defense has now been upgraded, so expect them to perform better this year. QB, while a rookie, is still supposed to be better and give us a better chance to win than Baker or Darnold, or PJ Walker, etc. etc. etc. That's the topic. Playoff or bust is the expectation.

we're talking about expectations, try to keep up. If you expect this coaching staff to win 7 games like Wilks/Rhule with lesser talent and better coaching staff, then I don't know what to tell you.

Haha some of you may be ok with giving the Bears a top 10 pick next year but I'm not. This fanbase loves mediocrity lol

I feel like OL depth has become such a need across the NFL that you can get away half assing your way through the NFL and not have to work hard to get better.

I'm pretty sure Fitt and Reich both said they're expecting to win this year. You're giving them a pass even when they say they should be competing for the division title?

This is a fair point, I absolutely think Fitterer should be on the hot seat and be fired if this team underachieves and hands the Bears a top 5 or top 10 pick. I still think this coaching staff has enough pieces to have a winning record.

Indeed - but I remember it felt way worse than Seifert's though.

Disagree. 2011 came after 1-15 season. We didn’t earn the #1 pick this year, we traded up from #9 to get Bryce Young after finishing 7-10 and second in NFC South. My expectations are more 2013. Playoff appearance.

I am talking about expectations for the season. Wilks almost made the playoffs and won 7 games with less talent overall. Some are saying not to expect playoffs with more talent, an upgrade at QB and significant investment in coaching and assistants. I refuse to downgrade my expectations and I hope Tepper doesn’t either.

And we have the NFL’s most expensive and experienced coaching staff. Time to earn their keep and get the most out of this roster. In the weak NFC it’s a reasonable expectation. Wilks did more with less

As I said in the OL thread, they ran stunts on Wednesday in joint practice. They struggled then and did not learn from it. Very concerning

This. He passed the eye test.

Nobody said anything about giving up. It’s about demanding more. Tired of mediocrity. Same goes for Fitterer. He’s been bragging about how they addressed the offensive line last year.

With the coaching staff that Frank Reich has assembled, anything less than a playoff appearance should be considered a failure. The terrible performance we saw yesterday makes me question if Frank has this coaching staff working as a team or if there are too many cooks in the kitchen and not enough of accountability. And no it’s not an overreaction, I don’t even care if we win or lose in preseason. But let’s not sugar coat thing. Every team plays their scrubs in the preseason but don’t look like complete incompetence. In fact, I am more angry today, having processed the game, than I was yesterday. Better figure it out quickly Frank! The honeymoon is over.

Cam Erving should be gone

Damn I forgot we have to relive this embarrassment on the next episode of Hard Knocks

Lol i get it now

And I would be OK with that, he will have to check down more than he wants to

It would be fair criticism if that’s what actually happened. Those stunts happened so quickly the receivers didn’t even break yet and when they did, Bryce delivered but got hit.

From The Athletic https://theathletic.com/4771391/2023/08/12/panthers-preseason-stock-report-analysis/ The entire offensive line: The Jets have a deep and talented group of defensive linemen, and the Panthers couldn’t block them. It was a pitiful performance from a group that is supposed to be a strength, even without right guard Austin Corbett. Offensive line coach James Campen called a meeting with his players, veteran tackle Cam Erving said, “the s— wasn’t good enough.” Left tackle Ikem Ekwonu gave up two of the hits on Young — against Thomas and Bryce Huff. Ekwonu, last year’s first-round pick, had a tough debut against Myles Garrett in Week 1 before settling in as a pass blocker. But Saturday was far from his best day. “It definitely wasn’t good enough. Not up to our standards at all,” Ekwonu said. Erving and reserve tackle Larnel Coleman gave up pressures and guard Michael Jordan was beaten repeatedly. Asked if the Panthers were rusty, Ekwonu said: “You can’t really chalk it up to anything. Just weren’t good enough today. At the end of the day we didn’t get it done.” OL Michael Jordan: The Panthers tried Charlotte’s other M.J. in a couple of spots. But trouble followed Jordan wherever he lined up. At right guard in the first half, Jordan was beaten right off the snap by Quinton Jefferson, who sacked Young for a nine-yard loss. It didn’t get any better in the second half. Playing right tackle, Jordan was whistled for a false start to turn a third-and-5 into a third-and-10. On the ensuing play, he failed to pick up a stunt and let Bruce Hector get past him and sack Corral, whose fumble was recovered by Hector. Corral should have seen the pressure and either gotten rid of the ball or protected it better. Still, Jordan’s performance likely had coaches and the front office questioning why they brought him back. Jordan declined to comment after the game.

Even if he did, for me it was how poised and in control he looked despite the offensive line chaos

Beggars can’t be choosers