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This was Frank Reich subtly washing his hands off the disaster and pointing everyone to Tepper https://x.com/avl_mike/status/1711457885039841789?s=46

Automatic deduction for being too slow

Most rookie QBs do THIS. I'd rather he throw picks, but at least it better be when throwing down the field. I hated the first INT more than the second.

Rookie being a rookie, He's still averaging more touchdowns than interceptions which is more than could be said for Trevor Lawrence his rookie year, on another terribly coached team. YEAR G ATT COMP PCT YDS AVG LNG TD INT 20+ SCK SCKY RATE 2021 17 602 359 59.6 3641 6 58 12 17 43 32 238 71.9

Their backups didn’t give up a single sack in some games. Just because we thought we had good linemen doesn’t mean it’s true.

Can’t disagree with him being better, he’s balling right now. But I don’t think he would look very good behind this offensive line and these receivers. I think we would see more completions downfield but he wouldn’t have enough time to do it very often.

Yes, his arm seemed noticeably livelier when he wasn't running for his life. Go figure

If you think Stroud would do anything more than marginally better than Bryce in this offense, you're just being a prisoner of the moment regarding his fit in Houston which is a much better coached team.

Get a room you two lol

This is a bad trade but not because Bryce was the #1 pick it’s because of one reason WE WERE NEVER A QB AWAY FROM BEING A PLAYOFF CONTENDER like we were led to believe by the idiots Tepper and Fitt Compare it to the 49ers Trey Lance trade, who truly were and could still muster competitive season even when their trade up for Trey Lance was a total bust. Bryce Young will not bust but it was stupid to trade away his #1 receiver and next year’s first when it’s going to be another top 5 pick. That’s why it’s a bad trade and it would be a bad trade even if Stroud was the pick. Stroud in this offense may have mustered a 1-4 record instead of 0-5 and ultimately it’s a different conversation if he should have been the pick instead.

You were really expecting all that from a rookie QB on a bad team?

Have to let it play out. We don’t have a 1st rounder in 2024. You evaluate him for two years and decide if 2025 is time for a reset at the QB position

What do you hope to gain by running it with Andy?

This is a bad trade but not because Bryce isn’t the #1 pick it’s because we’re not a QB away from the playoffs like we were told. We’re not the 49ers who truly were and could still muster competitive season even when their trade up for Trey Lance was a total bust. Bryce Young will not bust but it was stupid to trade away his #1 receiver and next year’s first when it’s going to be another top 5 pick. That’s why it’s a bad trade and it would be a bad trade even if Stroud was the pick. Stroud in this offense may have mustered a 1-4 record instead of 0-6.

It hasn't been pretty and for the most part, it's been rather hard to watch. Five games into the Frank Reich era and the Carolina Panthers look like they took twelve steps back from where they were to begin the season a year ago. Notice how I said the beginning of last season, not the end. That's more like 1,200 steps backward. We all saw the lack of depth this team had in the summer and the front office failed to address it. I understand there's only so much you can do in one offseason and even if they had made a couple of extra moves to "beef up" the roster, I'm not sure it would have made that much of a difference. This team is without two of its starting offensive linemen and is running a heavy zone run game scheme which is not what led to their success down the stretch in 2022. As offensive coordinator, Thomas Brown said last week, "It's a convenient excuse". He's not wrong, but we can't ignore the fact that it is a part of why this running game isn't as effective as it was a year ago, in addition to the injuries. But now, what I'm really here for... I'm stunned at the number of folks on social media placing the blame on Bryce Young, already deeming him a "bust". I can assure you the Panthers don't have a quarterback problem. They have a personnel and coaching problem. Can't it be worked out? Yes, absolutely. It just takes time. This coaching staff is too good not to figure their end of it out. It's about them gaining experience together, understanding what the perfect blend of their offensive and defense philosophies is, and putting that formula to use. When you have receivers that consistently struggle to win one-on-one matchups, have a difficult time establishing the run game, and allow pressure on a regular basis, it's hard for any quarterback to execute. So let's stop comparing Young to C.J. Stroud. And this is coming from a guy who had Stroud as the No. 1 quarterback in the 2023 draft class. If Stroud were on this roster, it would be the same story. He doesn't fix any of the problems at the receiver position, in the run game, or up front in protection. My only knock on Young entering the NFL was his size. Could he take the beating? Would he be able to scan the field well? Would there be balls batted down at the line of scrimmage every week? Through his first four starts, we haven't once discussed his size because it's not been an issue. It's been everything else from execution, pre-snap responsibilities, health, you name it. Could there be something the coaching staff could do to present a more clear picture for Young? Yes. Even Steve Smith Sr. mentioned this on one of his latest episodes. I'm not here to excuse the poor start to the season because quite frankly, there's no reason this team should be as bad as they are. But as far as the quarterback goes, I will refrain from judging Young as a franchise guy until he has the proper pieces around him. It's not like he doesn't belong. He's pieced together some drives where you're like, "Ah yes, there's why he was the number one overall pick." The talent, the IQ, and the overall makeup are there for Young to be the guy to lead the Panthers back to its winning ways. Let's give the kid some time to learn, grow, and most importantly get some darn help. https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/monday-morning-thoughts-bryce-young-isnt-the-problem?fbclid=IwAR2ZH20ifWRJMWQEh2EqccoN9UUp-zUFbic5MGvUj5LGF1WCbIhAzV1d7is_aem_ASktduesu4kTSQhzbI-FSYLi6seQ2rhKrR7UmQU9co4OXpyKKnCmPIMSPcIyHS_Hq0Q

Right, at least we would have a functioning offense

This can be said about any QB. You wouldn’t run Drew Brees or Tom Brady in the same offense as Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson. The overreaction to CJ Stroud’s success is kind of pathetic. Just shut up and support your young QB.

34-17

They stopped blitzing but that was not prevent defense at all. Bend but don’t break, sure.

I know offense looked a bit more fluid in the second half. Coincidence? https://x.com/justblande/status/1711092362145849692?s=46

Sorry but this isn’t rock bottom (yet). It’s too soon to discuss

We all got fooled at one point or another

I think his performances are right in line with previous top QB prospects in a rookie season who turned out to be franchise QBs. Stroud and Cam have been the anomalies not the rule. That said, giving up assets to not grab the top guy was an egregious error and heads should roll. However since the main force behind the sudden shift to draft Bryce was Tepper he can only really point the finger at himself

Yep it didn’t hit me until this year

Sure, I don’t disagree with that but If Bryce turns into the second best franchise QB of the draft, then I can live with that as long as he can be that guy for us.