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This makes sense to me. I’m thinking the Houston signing actually helps Leota’s chances (can afford to take a flyer with a solid vet there). I know people are thinking with Corral not having much of a shot last year he deserves a chance, and with the 3rd emergency qb rule in play that helps case for 3, but he really needs to play well in preseason or I think we roll with two.

Thoughts on camp battles? WR: top five are set, who wins out between Shi and Byrd? OG: top four set, who makes it between Brown, McCray and Jensen (UDFA)? Edge: w/ Houston along with Burns, Haynes and DJ, is there a fifth OLB among Barno, YGM, and Leota (UDFA) Corner: top three are set, which two do you roll with among Taylor, Thomas-Oliver and Wright (UDFA)? Three UDFAs seem to be in play. Am I missing others?

Mingo is a big freaking dude. Makes Moose look small. Can’t help but like how country he is. Hopefully that keeps him hungry to work hard.

My first thought too, was “damn, that boy country”.

Good list. Others to consider? Mike Rucker Jon Beason Jonathan Stewart John Kasay

Fitt has said multiple times he prefers to select a QB every year.

Let’s not kid ourselves. The big move was the move up to one. Young at one or Levis at 9 will be the question. (Plus all we gave up).

$27mil in cap space today. Need to hold back some for rookies and in season maneuvers, but plenty of cash for FA signing or three.

Next moves for the off-season? 1) Pickup 5th year option on Brown (deadline tomorrow). No brainer. 2) Decline option for CJ? 3) Extend Burns. 4) Chinn- final year of his contract, make sense to extend? 5) Sign any veteran free agents? Most of Burns and Chinn extensions would hit the future cap. We have room in the cap for some FAs.

I presume you’re talking off-season? Weren’t excited during undefeated regular season run on the way to a Super Bowl appearance?

Last year he played 17 games and 89% of offensive snaps. (According to overthecap)

Regardless of the draft, you’d think we want to sign a veteran QB, right? Five of these guys have played for the Panthers in the past. Who are you signing? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/?ref=trending-pages

The issue of course is there are four teams ahead of us that definitely need a QB (Houston, Indy, Vegas and ATL) and you could make an argument for Chicago, Arizona, Detroit and Seattle too. And there is a pretty big drop from the fourth and fifth QB prospect. So there is certainly risk in hoping your guy drops to 9.

This is the answer. Shaq has been averaging $12.5mil in cash earnings since ‘19, and is on the books to earn $13mil next year. The issue of course has been the accounting restructuring. So ‘23 is the year that cap hits (earning $13mil, but the cap hit will be $24mil unless they restructure again). You can covert $10mil of the ‘23 salary into a bonus, extend the contract through ‘24, but void it after this season. That frees up about $12mil in cap space this year, and kicks that $12mil can down the road to ‘24’s cap. And we have tons of cap space next year. Or if you want to keep him longer term you just do a 2-3 year deal without the voidable years.

Fitt has also said he likes bringing in a new QB each year. So perhaps he gets both this year.

Re Sam, that was Rhule’s boy. Rhule was Fitt’s boss, so Fitt secured Sam for two years. Re Baker, Fitt was “open to it” at the right (low price), but he also wanted Corral. Fitt has said from day one you keep swinging on QBs until you hit. Nothing he has done has mortgaged our future beyond one year.

That wasn’t my takeaway from the article. Fitt made one bad choice: the $18mil guarantee for Sam. It was a calculated risk that didn’t work out. But the conviction in Sam came from Rhule, not Fitt.

Tapatío on eggs is the way to go.

This is the reason trades for players doesn't happen often in the NFL. The salary structure makes him even more valuable to the new team (cheap salaries ahead) but a ton of dead money for old team. You telling me CMC at basically free for this year and $12mil the next three years isn’t an attractive contract for the best RB in the league?

I presume you are joking. Otherwise you aren’t doing it right.

I was on board for this. But for anyone to think you just snap your fingers and get a good QB is crazy. Fitterer has said you try and try again until you hit. That’s what he has tried. Of course you can say why did we guarantee that 5th year for Sam, but even that was a one year throw away.

All indications are that Darnold is a decent locker room guy. Unless you get $3mil plus in salary covered by another team, no reason to not keep him. Let’s say you cut him. Why would another team offer anything more than the league minimum for him. (Unless I’m overlooking differences waiver and cut).

I can spell this out if you need me to. First, someone says he is cheap for a top 15 qb. Then you replied you got anything to back that up. Then I provided a link to rankings from just this past month from Chris Simms, a well regarded QB analyst, showing he has Baker as #17. Apologies there is such a massive gap between 15 and 17.

Chris Simms rated him #17 this summer. https://sports.nbcsports.com/2022/06/14/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2022-chris-simms-top-40-qb-countdown-ahead-of-upcoming-nfl-season/amp/