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This is like being mad about who your parents are.
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This is the way. As long as our team is willing to offer him close-but-not-quite top end money, I’m fine with that. BB doesn’t have a ton of options beyond holding out. But that’s not a great option either (missing out on almost $1mil per game and not accruing a season). He might miss this week, but I could see this getting sorted out pretty quickly too. Need Bosa to sign.
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I hear you on this. And this is the key point. But if you watch a video on what it is people think have made Belicheck great at building defenses, it is taking tweeners that can be a multi-tool player. And then completely overhaul the game plan every week. Specifically based on their opponents’ weaknesses. Think about how different that is to a coach like Rivera or Fox that have their game plan and make sure the players can fit the plan. Tweener players offen are a lot less expensive. Granted you will always need a lockdown corner, nothing hybrid about that. But these DE/LB hybrids and LB/S hybrids if used properly can really be dynamic. Hopefully we have the right coaches to game plan!
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Santee_Panther started following Best & Worst Defenses , Is Chinn a STAR hybrid? and Updated Depth Chart (from Panthers.com)
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Admittedly I’m a UNC fan, and last night watching the game heard a lot of talk about the Star hybrid LB position. It sounds a lot like Chinn, as a hybrid safety, LB, nickel corner. So I dug into some old articles and it sounds like a staple of the Saban, Kirby Smart defenses, founded in principles from Bilicheck. Some snipets from an old article about UGA: Instead of playing a true nickel defense, however, and replacing that linebacker with a fifth defensive back, who might be a weak link against the run, the STAR position is utilized. The STAR should have the quickness to cover the slot, sound tackling ability and can rush the passer when needed. This is part of the reason the STAR position is important for the Bulldogs; it isn’t one that players can simply be taught how to play. Because of the demanding nature of the position, whoever plays STAR has to possess a unique set of natural qualities that aren’t too common. Players who have the speed of a safety, the tackling ability of a linebacker and can cover like a nickel back are coveted prospects on the recruiting trail. A program like Alabama can sell elite prospects on the success other well-known players had at that position. That is an advantage that Smart is hoping to gain at Georgia. Article from 2017: https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/georgia-football/star-position-important-for-georgia-spring-practice/ And another article with quotes from Saban talking about Bilicheck’s system, specifically the star: https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2012/08/alabama_defense_101_nickel_sta.html
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They also have the Broncos tied with the Chiefs.
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A little background on the Corral move
Santee_Panther replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think it is more along the lines of we could have not traded up and still gotten either Corral or Howell in the 4th. -
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From a cap perspective, agree on Thomas, but not Corbett. Corbett would have a $11.6 mil dead cap figure if we cut him after this season. We backloaded his contract plus added void years. He’s likely with us for this season and next. -
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His cap hit was only $3mil last year. Will be $5mil this year. $10mil next year (oof). And then he will no longer be under contact and count almost $8mil against the ‘25 cap. It was basically a 3 year $26mil contract, but backloaded and spread out over 4 years. If he has similar production as last year again this year and next, not bad. But if not… -
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Unfortunately that almost $8mil “dead cap” after next season are void years. He’s only under contract through next season. This was kicking the can maneuvering due to our tough cap situation last year. -
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The starting defensive backfield has a chance to be really good. Bell, Woods, Chinn, Horn and Jackson. That’s solid. And we know Shaq and Luvu should be pretty good. And Burns/Brown can be elite. So I guess it boils down to the new guys. Can Shuttle and Williams step in and step up. -
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I don’t disagree with you. But, it’s year one of a rebuild, and we have cap flexibility going into next year. I’m optimistic. Of course, there will be some bumps, but if Bryce is good, we will be good. -
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Poor copy/paste job on my part left him off! Apologies. -
Position 1st 2nd 3rd WR DJ Chark Jr. Terrace Marshall Jr. LT Ikem Ekwonu Ricky Lee LG Brady Christensen Nash Jensen C Bradley Bozeman Cade Mays RG Chandler Zavala Calvin Throckmorton RT Taylor Moton TE Ian Thomas Tommy Tremble Giovanni Ricci TE Hayden Hurst Stephen Sullivan WR Jonathan Mingo Laviska Shenault Jr. WR Adam Thielen Ihmir Smith-Marsette QB Bryce Young Andy Dalton RB Miles Sanders Chuba Hubbard Position 1st 2nd 3rd DE Derrick Brown LaBryan Ray NT Shy Tuttle Nick Thurman DE DeShawn Williams OLB Brian Burns Yetur Gross-Matos Amaré Barno ILB Shaq Thompson Kamu Grugier-Hill ILB Frankie Luvu Claudin Cherelus OLB Justin Houston Marquis Haynes Sr. DJ Johnson CB Jaycee Horn CJ Henderson CB Donte Jackson Troy Hill D'Shawn Jamison FS Xavier Woods Jammie Robinson SS Vonn Bell Sam Franklin Jr. NCB Jeremy Chinn Quick Observations: 1) 12 starters on offense, should help us score! Kidding. 3 WRs (Chark, Mingo and Thielen) and 2 TEs (Hurst and Thomas) are listed as starters. Maybe kept Sullivan because they view him as Hurst’s backup? I presume Thomas is more of a blocker. 2) 5 DL (3 starters) but 6 OLBs (2 starters) seems like strange math. Hopefully that’s because they really like Barno/Haynes/YGM and the rookie Johnson. 3) I know it has been discussed, but will be interesting to see how they use Chinn alongside Bell and Woods.
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Keith Taylor is making a practice squad
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Any team can pluck any practice squad player. The only caveat is that the player has to go to the active roster (you can’t pull from PS directly to PS). So we could grab him back if we want to. (Not that we will, but we can). -
From The Ringer: https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/8/29/23848577/ranking-best-worst-nfl-defenses-2023-season 5. Carolina Panthers Another big swing! I’m so ready to get myself on @OldTakesExposed in like Week 7 if this defense stinks. But here’s the case for Carolina. The Panthers have young, ascending talent at premium positions, and they complemented that talent with solid veterans. Up front, the Panthers have edge rusher Brian Burns and defensive tackle Derrick Brown, a pair of first-round picks, and I liked the decision to add veteran pass rusher Justin Houston in August. Linebacker Frankie Luvu was a fun player last season. Jaycee Horn, the team’s first-round pick in 2021, has the tools to be a no. 1 corner if he stays healthy. Jeremy Chinn, Vonn Bell, and Xavier Woods give the Panthers versatility at safety. The Panthers finished 25th in defensive DVOA last year. But they added defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero, who comes over from Denver, where he quietly coached the Broncos defense to a no. 10 DVOA ranking. Last year was a disaster for the Panthers organization, with former head coach Matt Rhule getting fired in the middle of the season. They faced a tough schedule of opposing offenses and ranked 25th in EPA on takeaways. This year, the Panthers face the fourth-easiest overall schedule. I think they’ll make a big leap defensively and surprise people. When I’m wrong, you can ruthlessly mock me.