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That is a valid point. I could see playing him during the back end of the season “if” he was medically cleared. I just wouldn’t want to rush him back to the field prematurely to justify the 2nd selection in the 2023 draft. I’d rather have 100% in 2024 than 75-80%in 2023 and risk a medical setback.

If Chuba keeps playing like this, Sanders performs ok in a complementary role, and the offense can stay in the middle of the pack or better, I wouldn’t try to rush Brooks back…even if it meant keeping him off of field into 2025.

I know he's been playing bad for awhile, but that stat almost made me jump out of my seat! I had to go to https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounBr01/gamelog/2023/ to see that with my own eyes. Wow! I knew we had only scored 13 points in out last four games dating back to last season. I knew about the inability to convert on 3rd down (1 in each game this season). But, Bryce has only thrown 2 TDs since Nov 19th! He's lucky he wasn't benched at the end of last season.

Sam Howell played his first two years in under Ron Rivera. A fairly conservative coach. He only got to work with Eric Bienemy one season as an OC. I think Howell would be worth the risk if you could get him for a 4th or 5th round pick. I hate to come off as a Bryce basher, but Howell has already proven that he is a more effective passer in the NFL than Bryce Young. Last season Howell had 21 TDs/21 INTs, and 3,946 passing yards...on a bad team, with not much of a running game. If Bryce had put up stats like that we would have had a chance to win 5-6 games last year. The INTs would obviously need to come down in year 2, but not a person on this board would have been saying "Bryce is a bust".

Hard to play a strong defensive game when you're on the field all the time. Carolina has converted 2 3rd downs in their last two games. And as you pointed out, how can you give it your all for the entire game when you know once the other team scores more than 10 points you have no chance of winning?

Dalton threw for more TDs (2) and scored more points (27) in his one start in 2023 than Bryce has in his last 4 starts: TD (0), Points (13)

Those stats would have great in the 1970's. They seem pedestrian in today's pass oriented NFL. That said, If Bryce had posted those numbers in 2023, or by the end of the current 2024 season , we'd all be ok with those numbers and he'd be firmly entrenched as our starter going forward.

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Believe it or not...I can. Terry Bradshaw was benched at the start of the 1974 season for Joe Gilliam. He got his job back midway thru the season. He led the Steelers to a their first SB win that year. Pittsburgh won 3 more over the next 5 years. Once again, in terms of talent, there is no comparison. Bradshaw was 6'3/215lbs, could throw the ball a mile, and in his prime I've heard he could run a 4.5 forty...no kidding.

I'm probably older than you, but I do have someone who did all of the above. Jim Plunkett. He had a terrible start to his career. He was the first pick in the 1971 draft for NE. He was traded in 1976 to the 49ers. They released him after the 1977 season. He sat on the bench all of 1978 and 1979. He comes off the bench in 1980 after Dan Pastorini suffered an injury and won a SB. In 1983, he came off the bench again and took the Raiders to a SB win. Plunkett had one of the most unique careers in NFL History. All that said, He was a much more gifted physical prospect than Bryce Young.

While I think Bryce will never be a legit starting QB in the NFL, I love this post. Bryce didn't earn his job. It was given to him. Sitting on the bench "could" light a fire in him. This could be speculation on my part, but from what I've seen on the field and read thru media, I don't get the impression that football is his top priority. I don't see a player who spent the offseason trying to improve his conditioning, arm strength, or throwing mechanics. Maybe he needs to hire a personal QB coach. Maybe he should try to reach out to Drew Brees, Doug Flutie, or Kyler Murray. Ask them "how do/did you find throwing lanes and manipulate the pocket to find the open guy. Jim Plunkett was considered a 1st round bust. He played for two teams before winning won 2 SB's for the Raiders after starting the 1980 season a backup.

I said that yesterday. The Panthers are hurting him (and the team) by keeping him on the field. The best thing Canales could do for him right now is to bench him. Some will say "if you do that you'll destroy his confidence". Well, he isn't playing with any confidence now. And, if taking a seat on the bench b/c of his atrocious play breaks him mentally, then he doesn't have the mentality to lead a team and it's time for the Panthers to find another guy.

What you said in your post is one of the reasons he needs to be benched. Not only is he hurting the team, he is also probably damaging his mental health at this point. He’s playing worse in his 2nd year than he did in his first. That has to be mentally devastating.

Sanders, Mingo, Legette are experiencing QB hell right now. With Dalton they would at least have an opportunity to get several targets per game that travel more than 5 yards in the air. We have no way of knowing how good they can be with Young behind center. And as you pointed out, Plummer couldn’t look much worse than Young has the past 4 games.

Because Bryce cannot play QB at the professional level. With Bryce behind center we have been outscored 73-13 in two games. He has converted TWO thirds downs in 2 games. He has thrown 3 INTERCEPTIONS and 0 TDs. He can’t see over the line of scrimmage and has to jump in the air or stand on his toes get his passes off. He misses open WRs when they’re running free, even when he’s not pressured, because he’s an inaccurate passer. He gives the Panthers no chance to win when he is behind center. I can’t think of one thing Bryce Young does better than Andy Dalton (or any other QB in the NFL for that matter).

If I were Ewers an 0-17 Carolina team attempted to draft me 1st overall after an obvious tank job I’d pull and Elway or Manning move and tell them that under no circumstances will I be reporting to the team. Any team that would do that their fans isn’t a team worth playing for.

I may get flamed for this, but I think Reich would still be here if Carolina had drafted Will Levis. He hasn’t proven anything yet, but 10x better than Bryce Young…and we wouldn’t have had to give up any draft picks.

The first pick in the draft WORTHLESS if the front office picks the wrong guy. We currently have first overall pick on our roster and look where that got us. This team hasn’t produced a team for Charlotte fans to get excited about since 2017. This franchise is an embarrassment, and starting a tank after the 2nd loss of the season would be even more embarrassing. We need to try and win some games…THIS SEASON!

It's a painful enough to watch the Panthers offense on TV from the comfort my home. I can't imagine having to watch them live. Mr. Tepper would have to PAY ME an awful lot of money to sit thru a game at Bank of America Stadium. I wouldn't pay dime to watch the current team. I'd only go to a home game now if I were pulling for the other team. As bad as the Panthers are, when they show up on an opponent's schedule those players (and their fans) have to feel pretty confident about an addition to the WIN COLUMN.

The 2023-2024 (aka Bryce Young) Panther are the worst offensive team I've seen in the past 10 years. They are really a hard team to watch. No paying fan should have to watch this sorry display of football for back to back seasons. The one game Dalton played wasn't great, but it was much more exciting than all of Young's performances, with the possible exception of the GB game. I don't see how the offense or defense can get mentally ready to play week in and week out knowing the have no chance to win because the offense is going to struggle to get to 14 points per game.

What did Bryce do during the offseason...? He appears to have become an even worse QB than he was the previous season.

DB is a great run defender and pushes the pocket a little, but he's NEVER been the pass rusher I thought he would have been after being the 6th pick taken in the draft. He had 8 sacks in his first 4 seasons. I don't think our season sack total is going to be drastically affected with him out of the lineup.

I know exactly what you mean. He is painful to watch. I don't think my 12 year old son would look anymore uncomfortable than Bryce does when he drops back to pass and attempts to "read the field".