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I'd be a little surprised if Dalton does look better after a game. Sure we could have the surprise game where there isn't much film on him with these new weapons, but just like last year he will look bad if not worse after that (if that even happens). For all of his short comings (pun intended) Bryce is a lot more twitchy in the pocket and has saved a lot of sacks that Dalton probably couldn't this year. I think we invest all of our draft capital in building a stronger roster. I'm not sure a backup rookie QB does has the immediate returns they are looking for. Unless there is some QB we are high on that falls to the mid/late rounds I don't see happening. Now if Bryce just bombs this second half all bets are off.

I think Willis, Howell, Lance, and Z Wilson are all young relatively cheap options to come in. I don’t know if they beat out Bryce early. I think it’s going to take him struggling and getting benched again, but that’s just my thought.

Unless some drastic happens I think we keep Bryce his final year and probably pick up that 5th year option. We sign a higher ceiling vet like Lance, Zack Wilson, Howell etc... Young will be the starter next year but have a little pressure with the better backup situation. If the wheels fall off we switch it over to the backup and either try to trade Bryce or let him be our backup his final year. This is the path I see. The other path would be Bryce picking up his level of play and we just sign another old vet or keep Dalton as the backup. It will be interesting to see how bad Dalton is if he gets some playing time these couple weeks. If he looks horrible it will force us to get a better option next year regardless of Bryce's play.

DB’s run defense might make him better. It’s so underrated how different our run defense is with him playing. I’m probably bias though as an Auburn fan.

Because it’s not true.

I don’t think it was international or dirty, just an unfortunate football play.

I think it more shows how important a decent OL and OC is for a young QB. CJ has shown he can be one of the best in the league if he has these. Darnold looked like a solid starter when he got these, without it he looked like garbage. You can take away the whole Bryce Young thing since it appears to be a sensitive subject. Maybe Levis wasn't as bad as people thought for example looking at Cam Ward play just as bad if not worse as a rookie in that situation. QBs are the most important position but it's still very much a team sport and always will be. Just something to talk about until our next game.

People get too much in their feelings. I'm team Stroud, but it's definitely eye opening to see how much he has dropped off with a below average OL and different OC. I think he will be fine in the long run assuming the Texans can fix their OL.

Why does it matter what people were projecting vs the reality of what happened? Young was projected to be the most NFL ready day 1 starter. Projections don’t always align with reality.

This sounds just like a lot of Panthers fan during Bryce's rookie year

Ours at least isn't from lack of effort in our front office. Icky missed the first game, Moton missed week 6, Hunt has missed a lot of the games and will be out for a while, Lewis was out last game, our center fortunately upgraded when Corbs went down. I don't know if we have started the same group of OL yet this year....

For some reason they traded off his OL and have done a poor job replacing them. Especially in a year with a new offensive coordinator. On a side note, Slowik might have been better than they thought.

I've mentioned him before. He has also learned behind Shanny and now Harbaugh who are two solid coaches with QBs. Also he has had time to sit and get healthy as you pointed it. If we can get him for a good deal we should be all over it. Watching Dak from the sidelines probably helped him too if I'm being honest.

He has an arm no doubt. I think he has two NFL WRs with Lemon being one of the best in the country. Add in RIley's offense helping QBs is hard to tell how much is him vs the system and weapons. I wouldn't be against a mid to late flier on him though.

Packers at Lambeau and 49ers in SF (assuming CMC is healthy) are tough. We just aren't good on the road. We could possibly take the Seahawks at home depending on if we can get pressure on Sam or not.

I wanted Fields in the draft. That Clemson game sold me on him. If he was ever going to be good that time has passed. He has been ruined.

I wouldn’t write him off yet. He was always a bit of a project and hasn’t got to see the field much. He looked pretty decent in preseason for whatever that’s worth.

I don’t think we were watching the same game. Dalton’s passes weren’t on target either. Especially the 30 yard one that gave XL one third of his yards. The one he had to stop and come back for. XL just got more targets because Sauce was on TMac.

I‘m sure there were factors making it look worse, but that was 100% XL on that catch. It’s good to see him have a good game.

Yeah I’m not saying Bryce is better. Just Dalton isn’t better at this point in his career.

My point is Andy isn’t going to unlock XL. XL was already having a good game before Andy came out, under threw his WRs, and took a sack taking us out of field goal range. He isn’t going to help this offense any more than Young has. We saw it last year. This also isn’t a pro Bryce respond as much as it is an Andy is no better. I was more venting at his performance. @Proudiddydidn’t say anything I’m arguing against as much as I’m adding to his frustrations.

That last throw?? It was an air ball Dalton floated up for a 30 yard pass that XL had to literally stop his wide open route and jump and catch while the CB caught up with him. Dalton isn’t the QB people think he is at this point in his career. Remember last year when he had to play several games for us? It wasn’t good…

I keep want to look at the draft out of habit from previous Octobers

He needs to leave Shula and play for a team than can develop him. Lincoln Riley at the other USC could do wonders for him. I doubt he leaves though as he is from SC.

I guess I worded that wrong, I think he can become a LaFell type WR. He obviously isn’t there yet.