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If we can get another pass rusher Scourton is really going to be great.

They can go ahead and pull Dante Moore before halftime at the rate….

I’m saying Bryce not being able to overcome one sack that game is a bad take. He was a main reason there was only one sack. His blindside LT (who has been great all year) was playing through an injury and it showed (5 pressures allowed by Icky). If you want to blame Bryce go with he couldn’t attack the middle of the field, he threw it behind TMac on that potential TD allowing the CB to swat it out of his hands, his missed Tremble by a foot on a deep middle route etc…

It was a bad play from Icky but the OL didn't give up a sack until late in the 4th quarter and Bryce just stood there like he was canatonic. If our 3rd year number one overall pick can't overcome one single sack against a rebuilding Saints team that should only have 2 wins this season then it isn't ever going to happen This is your quote. I mean I’ve quoted it twice. It was followed by calling people that defended him fugers and several other meltdowns I can also quote. Shame you for working for a living??? Wow this is a whole new level to your victim mentality thing you like to do. You don’t have to watch games live. Or don’t spend an entire thread arguing about something you didn’t get the full picture of. I miss parts of games all the time. That’s just life. Not even going into the whole losing all respect thing.

Aw you do care! Appreciate it. I enjoy our little bickering debates. I do try to stay rational but I find myself defending the little guy more times than I like. I’m an Auburn guy for crying out loud!

That’s fair and debatable. I think he seems to be a good locker room guy and slippery in the pocket. If nothing else his floor is a decent backup. Just simply calling out a bad take earlier sent Frank in one of his meltdowns. After all of the bantering it turns out he didn’t even watch the whole game. Imagine that…,

It’s wasn’t about agreeing. It was a false statement saying he couldn’t avoid a single sack that game and the OL did their part aside from the 1 sack etc… It’s a fact that one of his OL gave up 5 pressures by himself which proves that wrong. That’s all there is to say about it. Now you are admitting you didn’t watch all of it which makes sense. I think you just got caught and had that whole little meltdown and now continue to drag this out. A simple, “my bad I didn’t watch all the game” would suffice next time. No need for deflections or nonsense babbling.

I didn’t think his slipperiness would translate at all, but I’ve been pretty happy with it this year. Again not saying he has arrived or is our guy, just surprised he is able to do some of that at this level. He created extra sacks doing it his rookie year more times than not IMO.

My goodness. We had one person not paying attention and claiming he was unable to avoid 1 single sack against the Saints. He actually did decent in avoiding pressure. They just glanced at the box score and saw 1 sack and made a bad assumption. No one is saying that’s always the case. Just called out that one person and they had a meltdown so it’s expanded to all this nonsense. They finally admitted it with some sarcasm about hanging a banner. Bryce has a lot to work on. He also has gotten better at avoiding sacks. Does that mean he is great and can do no wrong? No it doesn’t. He does plenty wrong. Someone makes 1 comment about an aspect of his game that has gotten better and the Bryce Police come out in full force lol.

Except the conversation I’m referring to was a person crying that Bryce couldn’t avoid 1 sack due to the fact he was sacked 1 time. Icky (playing injured) allowed 5 pressures by himself. So instead of actually watching him avoid sacks they just glanced at the box score and made a bad call like it was a fact.

I’m not even too concerned about people giving him credit. Just reading the box score and making assumptions isn’t always correct. Then when it gets corrected or challenged a whole little meltdown happens. There are plenty of honest data driven metrics to hold Bryce accountable in a negative way. There is no need to make up some (not directed at you). You are typically straight forward with your assessments and I appreciate that. I’d say we are probably stuck with Bryce next year unless a too good to be true option happens. Hopefully we upgrade QB2 and take a flier on a mid to late draft pick to be our developmental QB3. I’d love Lance in FA and if Allar falls to round 3 or later I’d be all over that too. If Canales is truly good at developing QBs Allar has every took you want.

So let’s do the reverse? Make everyone agree everything he does is a disaster? I also think the whole “gaslighting” is on the eye of the beholder. It went from he can’t avoid one single sack countered with he actually did that well Sunday (with data backing it) to a little breakdown of why he is so bad. People are going to have different opinions. I’m also not going to pretend this wasn’t happening Day one with this little QB.

Again I’m good if we move on. Mentioned it numerous times. The problem is anything positive is met with people freaking out. There is absolutely nothing we can do about it so just sit back and see what happens. We are allowed to mention if a player good or bad has a good game or did something well. I mean I will continue to do so and certain people are just going to have to accept it.

Icky has had a great year. He only struggled last game because he got hurt before halftime.

It’s definitely some sort of trigger point for some people. You can’t mention one thing Bryce has done well without a full meltdown. I’ve never seen anything like it… Yeah at this point he still needs a pretty big jump in his development to earn a 2nd contract IMO.

Yes consistent and coherent. I wish I could say the same for you.

So he did avoid sacks like a pro and this post of yours is just more nonsense? Time to pivot and deflect!

I was mentioning Icky playing hurt and allowing 5 pressures which Bryce actually managed well to another person. You proceeded to have this little meltdown about our expensive OL, excuses for Bryce, rushing yards, fug these people defending him etc… Other fans are going to have different opinions about different players. Life will be ok. You are just going to have to look down deep and realize your incoherent rambling, passive aggressive, non direct responses won’t change that. For the 1000th time I could care less if we move on from the guy, he isn’t comparable to Cam (my all time favorite player), I preferred Stroud and still do. With that all said I will still talk about him good or bad as I see it.

Little Friday night Bryce meltdown is good for the soul.

It’s more like we mentioned he avoided pressure well last game and we get this little meltdown of yours as a response. You went on some rambling nonsense about rushing yards which no one was talking about and now we are left with a final “legitimately fug these people.” My God man, pull yourself together. Oh but you aren’t biased against him right?

I’d agree with that. His rookie year he created extra sacks as well. I think lately he has gotten better at avoiding pressure and Sunday was a good example of that. That’s really all I was saying until it got branched off into “revisionist history” and “rushing yards.” This is where we are at though with him. Some people can’t even have a normal conversation after him.

Evading sacks and extending plays aren’t rushing yards. We are talking about him avoiding sacks and you have to branch off into some other category like rushing yards. We are at the point where it’s near impossible to even have a conversation with you about a certain QB.

Running to extend plays and avoid sacks was definitely one of the reasons he was drafted, I mean that was pretty much his specialty in college. I honestly didn't think that would translate very well at this level, but he had become pretty elusive in the pocket. If our OL is having a bad day, which all OL do, he needs to use his legs to help them out which I think he did pretty well last week.

Do you think you will get a direct answer? Icky giving up 5 pressures (playing hurt in his defense) by himself and Bryce only getting sacked once tells you he played well in the pocket. He extended plays and converted some tough downs.

I doubt it. JT was been a disappointment and I think they were banking on him developing. The fact they are reliant on decent contributions from a late rounder in Evans is pretty telling.