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Are other teams this high on Horn? I mean a top 10 pick CB better be the next Ramsey... I think Horn is good, but not much better/equal to several other CBs in this draft.

I’m not saying trade up for him, but if he falls to 8 and we like him then take him. Darnold isn’t a known player IMO. If he is known, he is known to throw INTs and not being very good. Our hope should be he is an unknown at this point who can still be very good and only looked back because of his situation. The “red flags” are what? Processing speed? He literally had the best rating throwing the his 2nd and beyond read of the top QBs in his class. I think he is falling because of the Indiana and Northwestern game (both of which he won). There was a lot going against OSU in those games. Missing best WR, missing coaching staff, missing offensive weapons and constantly having games cancelled or delayed due to COVID. Check out his previous year tape and he checks all the boxes. Plus he looked great against Clemson this year when he was dialed in. If our staff could unlock that one a regular basis...

Lol, man I was hoping you knew something I didn’t about him playing LT!

Jared Lorenzen may God rest his soul...

I read MHS’s write up on Elf as a LG/C which had me pretty optimistic. I don’t think I’ve read the Erving one yet.

We went ahead and made it a future 2nd to lock him in right when ATL says their pick was for sale (QB needy teams step right up and rivals will pay extra) and it still might be! Honestly Fields probably won’t be there at 8 and then we will be happy we have Darnold.

You would assume half or less would be depth/special teams...

Next year’s first is crucial. It allows us to move up and take a QB in the 22 draft if Darnold doesn’t work out. If he does then we get to load up with more talent for the man!

You see LT potential in Erving? I don’t know much other than he graded poorly on PFF, just curious...

Rhule took a 5-11 team gutted it and kept a young team at 5-11. Cam, Luke, Olsen, and Addison were all departed and CMC played like 2 games. From the outside looking at the records it looks pretty bland, but they did a great job given the circumstances. Not to mention first year head coach with limited offseason through COVID. They also hung around teams like GB and KC they had no business competing with.

I wish it was Sunday, because that’s my fun day....

I wouldn’t mind Mills or Newman, but it would need to be 5th round or later (don’t see Mills lasting that long).

Yeah I got you pretty good on the head. Might have given you some memory loss...

Moton, Moore, and possibly Jackson are coming due.

You just earned a VIP ticket to the Fields bus! (And yes I’m driving)

“Smokescreens aren’t as common as people think” You have literally taken quotes from the same conference stating they are confident in him. A quote comes up that doesn’t fit your narrative.... must be bluffing for draft season. Sorry but you can’t have it both ways.

https://www.panthers.com/news/scott-fitterer-adding-sam-darnold-gives-panthers-options People seem to ignore this. Fitterer states this doesn’t take them out of getting a QB. He also states it allows them to take the BPA or make moves. They didn’t want to go into the draft with any needs...

And Brees has us taking Fields per Tepper. Another exchange of opinions. If Darnold had a cloud over his head over Teddy he isn’t going to cut it as a starter in this league...

Darnold = insurance and doesn’t make us trade away too many picks for a QB or settle on whoever makes it to 8. He allows us to take the BPA. They are comfortable with him at QB this year. If someone they like happens to fall to 8 it will be interesting. If it’s one they really like we will either get a nice haul in a trade down or have a QB competition in camp.

Yeah the Chargers should have passed on Herbert with all the Oregon busts (Marietta, Harrington) and the Bengals on Burrow with the LSU busts (Russell and Flynn). Texas Tech QBs were just system QBs until Mahomes...

If the price is right, I’d be ok with this. Gives us ammo to grab one next year if needed.

If you get it wrong you are set back like any first round pick. Sewell could end up like Matt Kalil, there is always a risk. However, if you don’t have a QB your team wont be doing too much anyway. You got to have one to stay relevant in the playoffs.

Agreed. Some positions are worth this risk and QB could be one of them. Hell the Niners are dropping 3 first round picks on a guy they believe is the answer.

If you pass on one you believe is the guy at 8 and gave a decent roster, it’s going to cost a lot more than one first to get your guy next year.