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It absolutely depends on if the player who is bringing the off field issues can win over the locker room and the team can get by the PR nightmare. Things are a lot different now and rightfully so. What if an established vet like CMC has an issue with Watson’s allegations? Also social media is going to probably crucify whatever team acquires Watson. Some players/owners/staff don’t want that distraction even if it is for a player of his caliber. Ray rice never bounced back from his off field issue, Greg Hardy couldn’t make his comeback. The game is just as much mental as physical. Watson has always operated with a clean image, it will be interesting to see how and if he plays with these skeletons out of his closet.

He is just saying if a 6th round pick doesn’t get playing time or even gets cut, it not that surprising. It really depends on your definition of “bust”.

That might be the future. Elf and Erving will see a large amount of playing time and will hopefully help mentor these young players. Scott/Erving, Elf, Paradis, Miller (rookie could beat him out early), and Moton probably start us off. I’m just excited to have potential and youth on our offensive line. My main concern is LT, but Erving can play it (not very well), Scott was ok there, and Christensen has potential there. On a side note, Little better play his ass off in practice or he is gone.

If Moore and Brown are starting on this mammoth line opposing defenses’ pants are going to start turning more brown!

We felt Darnold fulfilled our QB need as well or close to as well as Fields or Mac (I personally wanted Fields). Rhule has stated that one of our biggest issues was getting off the field on 3rd downs. Reddick will help add pressure with Burns, but we were in need of a CB. Rhule believed Darnold/Horn fulfill 2 major needs while Darnold/Fields would (maybe give a better chance) only fulfill one. If they make Darnold work they are geniuses, if they don’t and Fields lights it up we are going to start looking like the Bears have been on QBs...

He needs a mustache and cowboy hat AND name change and he will have quite the fan base here.

The Appaloosa Model backs this theory.

To me Teddy was still playing like a backup. Quick passes and check down passes to try to not lose the game. Solidified starters have to take risks and trust their teammates to do their jobs. His arm being somewhat limited is part of it, but part of it is the mental aspect of trying to play it safe. Later in the season we had nothing to lose (were out of the playoff race) and he still kept it dialed in during the 4th quarter when we were down. Unless he can change his mindset he will always be a great backup and below average starter.

What’s a left tackle? Do teams still use those?

Yet here you are...

2-2 sounds reasonable with wins over the Texans and Jets. If we can beat Dallas or NO early then we should be in for a good season.

They also didn’t practice throwing to an open DJ Moore enough..... Practice was mainly check downs and goal line fumbles on QB sneaks.

It’s Catastrophic!

Cats the musical.

Exactly. This is a sports message board, there will be PLENTY of knee jerk reactions. I wouldn’t give it a second thought.

Man you are like 6-7 posts behind Gooby! Keep up! Everything you just posted was already addressed/debated... Such a Gooby!

Yeah makes way more sense. I was thinking there is no way someone else can be high on this Jets team not naked Gooby!

Are you serious? Damn it. I don’t necessarily think he will be a star. I wanted Justin Fields personally. I just think he is still a very much unknown because few QBs would have been successful in his situation. His turnovers are a major concern. We may actually have similar views on this the whole time... The other poster Gooby was praising Bowles/Gase and the talent around him stating he was the reason they were terrible. I felt a need to defend him for that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/Article/Mel-Kiper-Sam-Darnold-trade-tremendous-move-for-Carolina-Panthers-New-York-Jets-163786073/Amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/jetswire.usatoday.com/2021/04/16/ryan-kalil-adam-gases-system-hurt-sam-darnold-other-jets/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nfl/panthers/.amp/gm-report/mcshay-kiper-riddick-believe-sam-darnold-is-finally-in-position-to-succeed There is some context by analyst who get paid to do this kind of thing. There is a trend here... Any of them stating Darnold had a good coach/talent around him and he is the reason the Jets were so bad? Let me know when you find any.

I was surprised to read the headline. Post did not disappoint!

Zero wins without the player you think is the issue. Zero. Go read the reactions to the Jets depth chart on Mr Scott’s thread. It will help open your stubbornly closed eyes...

Gase’s Jets team in winless without Darnold, yet he is the problem? Anderson thriving in Carolina is another example of a player doing better once leaving Gase. Where is Gase now?

That’s fair. I think the thought process is his price came down once no teams were showing interest, but yeah that’s speculation. It’s hard to say his actions did not decrease his value originally, which is sad if true.

You can’t use stats. Fine. Darnold is the best QB in the league. Convince me otherwise without using any sort of stats. Gase was the coach. He struggles to use players correctly/put them in a position to succeed. That’s why they cut Bell, that’s why Tannehiil thrived when he left Gase, it’s why the Dolphins are getting better every year now that he left Miami. Blaming a young QB for the struggles the Jets have had is a stretch. They were struggling before they drafted Darnold and the coach could always bench him, especially if his job was on the line. The fact still remains the Jets were winless without Darnold playing these past three years so it’s clearly not solely on him.