Basbear

The past five years have affected some of us....

Both the starting OGs were injuried, both were listed to be ready for OTAs and TC. Now will be backups it seems. I bet the Panthers OL has to be the highest paid in the league now, too bad the can not say the same for talent side...

Im not. I wonder why Houston isn't resetting the OG market??.... Plus are Corbett and christ going to demand trades now? I just didn't have 150+million for OG on the menu, but its the Panthers. Wouldn't shock me if young busts mid-season, carales&Morgan canned, and new HC runs different system so they cut hunt&lewis.... There were many other OG signing deal half of what the Panthers were giving out too. Couple center deals as well, in which Panthers don't have one currently. Not one on the 70 or so man roster.... ugh.

Update added; LG- Damien Lewis

Memes aside, once those 6'5 330LB monsters put on shoulder pads and helmet, NO QB can see over them.

Minus big bad brown of course and healthy horn too(lols), he's got a XFL unit.

So in order to try and savage Byce Young they are dropping 150+ million(90 guaranteed) on OGs?? Trading and selecting Byce Young was a real curse.

Panthers lose no matter if they signed him to 30per or trade him for a 2nd+5th. It should have never gotten here- either traded him for that rams haul or you must resign him two years ago with what have been a 20per million bargain today. But its the Panthers and for the past few years they have made bad decisions yearly.

I think the hope is edge @ 33rd and WR @ 39.

Has the team added or lost more talent with all the moves? Very simple....Bonus its very easy to pick the correct answer!

It is hard to judge, but my main deal is there more or less talent on the roster now with the cuts and signings? To me its clear as day less talent, no matter if they were on a 2 win team. That's the goal to improve overall team talent, thus far its one-sided in the wrong direction. You could even debate hunt at 21 is not 2.5x better than healthy corbett at 8. Corbett ran with rams wide zone and did great. I think burns and ygm got too much, still to borrow a baseball term WAR. That has to make panthers drop their WAR. The plan thus far is go 0-17 and get the 1st pick.

The issue is *IF* you are going to turn down that offer, you must sign him long term. PERIOD. You go to the agent and if its not going to happen, take the haul and use the cap space on his replacement. Reddick went for 3 years 45million and put up better #s.

That's right with Morgan in the 1st. Best draft in panther history. My god do the Panthers need that again...

Are they better without them? Did coaching and/or system have more to do with winning/losing than their talents?

Imagine if drafted Chris Jones instead of vernon butter....

I thought he was a 3rd?

Yep I believe he was a little "old" for the draft pool and Dave sold him as " He was the best pass rushing DT in the draft". There was a huge hole/S at DT and it turned out great for those 4 years with him and star. I did think it was a great beginning for Daves panthers GM career. I was like " this guy got balls to go against the norm ". Then his ego got the best of him. Klein was another " I don't care, he was BPA pick ". That was correct too and hell I think he was still playing last year...

Dang I forgot about KK. Miss the hell out of pre-2nd contract KK. He was one of first game changing pass rushing DTs. He was great against the run too, just a force.

Did moose beat the 20 cruve?

Update- subtract YGM

I thought this would be a bank of america concert update...