Basbear

Most guys signing after the draft are on minium type deals at best. Most time the guarantee is the issue. My guess would be 320,000 signing bonus along with vet min.

If that is true, then one more time.....SHould have kept RIvera as well, even if it was time. The whole point was to bring the Panthers into more modern system. Choosing RHule was the first huge mistake, cause he wanted to do was 90s stuff as well.......then fire the one coach that was passing orientate, the next big mistake. Wilks just looked at what they did well and got rid of the other plays..... and he went 6-6 and should have made the playoffs if not for the choke job. I didn't want rhule AT ALL and wasn't on the wilks wragon either. Shane Steichen was my only pick, but he didn't zoom well or whatever that means. He is a 10x better QB coach than candy man. The issue is that 90s era ball can still win games and there's a good chance its the best way for the Panthers to win. The rams and 49ers have gotten picked clean, might as well give Matt Nagy another shot after next year...... The defenses have caught up, scoring was down this past year across the league.

there was no benefit to cutting boz, bell, and Hurst......but Dan did it. Honestly I was shocked, he must have hated having them as Panthers. He should have kept them on as backups for at least this year. If they didn't agree, well take a massive pay cut in order to be cut or enjoy the bench. Turtle and sanders somehow missed this.

holy mogged!!

I think he was 6th in yards and 2nd in average and he's got decent hands. Good 3rd down and top of mark returner. He should have a similar impact on new returns as well. I think he's a little more than a JAG. He's had a home on the Panthers for 3yrs and fought off players during.

Then don't give him 180 with 100 mill in guarantees. In truth it was a 100 million smokescreen, LOLOOLololololol!! There a new report of cousins leaving the Vikings cause no matter what they were planning on drafting a early QB. It's one big mess, watch if he struggles out the gate, it will split the locker room and fans for to play penix instead.

You forgot Blackshear, he was resigned with the new KO rule in mind. 5 is just too many. Maybe penny is just injury insurance, still odd signing.

The 5th year allows tons of leverage when it comes to new contract talks. It's like having 20% more control of a contract. It allows cheaper numbers, cause well you have that 5years compared to 4. Plus you also have 6th, 7th, and 8th(I think) tagged years. Sure the QB doesn't play on it, but it allows teams to lower their offers given the years of control. The deal with penix is he's also old too, so that 3rd year he's going to be 26/7 unlike 23. You are also looking at the best side that penix can play and needs a new contract. It could easily be he's a bust and thus wasted this important era. The failcons should be comfy in the playoffs barring injuries. Now they missed on adding a edge making a key sack in the playoffs, to having spend the 8th overall on josh Rosen. Honestly they should have drafted Rome Odunze. Pitts, Robinson, Allgeier, London, with a *healthy cousins.....that's 5/6 big problems for defenses. Most days they'd be able to drop 40. Im super happy they didn't, but ask again in 3 years and I may regret.....

Trying to regain my sarcasm credit.

Looks like a raw college WR to me, some plays looks like hes got issues just running. Hope fans give him time, like they never do. I think JC horn will get him ready for NFL CBs

Dan must have truly wanted to draft around the 150 area in the 5th. Seems he traded for dang near all the picks around there.

If you only count this past year and take age out of grade, its possible XL is among the top 3. But come on, this is silly......next thing you'll here is brooks was #1 RB on some ramdo ex-scout ranking....

slow long speed along and no one seen him against good CBs. He still has other traits that many successful WRs carry. He's got elite 10 yard speed and vert. Also seems to be a great route runner. He's got NO issues for drops, I think hes only had two for the whole season. Great hands, but those balls were creampuffs.

At least all my pick got drafted, most were gone by the Panthers mean talent-eye! I think Xavier Thomas was nearly 100 picks before.

If you get the right position, that should count as a .5 You did great, 8 most time is tops, Id never get that high after the first 4 picks...

I got the grammar pass with years of poor value, Spell check "fixed" it and I lowered the case without thinking.... I need this board to be able to use grammarly, that saves my life in texts and emails...here Im

I mean what could go wrong?? Penix is young, fresh with new millions, lots of free time and you're in chocolate city?!?!? If it was me, RIP....

Also its impossible to fix this team in just one year. Honestly need 4 full years and lots of luck.... Besides Center, the OL looks like one of the best units. Lots of depth. Ickey is the wildcard and just like young, its a huge year for him. I'd hate for the Panthers to be looking a QB, LT, and 2 edges by seasons end.

Keep working that brian, unless I fell for your troll.... Hint- think of Arthur blank pushing a player in wheelchair....

It could easily divide the locker room and the fans. Good for them!! Green Bay also already done it with farve and arod, again different since arod fell to 25. 8th overall is about finding a difference maker, not a maybe years form now. Only way this works if penix is like a HOFer and then it would not matter. Until then, LOLLOLOLoLOLoolos

Arod wasn't new to the team, nor did he sign 180milion deal with 100 million guarantees. Plus love was a 26th pick, not 8th overall. BTW cousins has a no-trade clause as well.... I think it made arod win the MVP too....which in itself worth the pick... The main point of drafting a rookie is for them to play on that cheap contract. At min penix will play two years from now, thus washing out the good part of his contract. Only way this works if cousins gets re-injured or busts. He will be 26-27 and need another contract by then. No matter what the saints do, Each cap dollars do matter. It's an awful awful deal no matter the out come. Glad panthers will benefit!!

I really liked zona's draft too. It's a fair snap shot at a entertainment grade.. edit- raiders imo had a much better draft than the expert grade. I see lots of BPA and need filled.

It felt like this draft was for the 2025 season. legette, brooks, sanders, wallace, and even smith -wade(NB) have a above 50% chance to start. Nothing much in the way, unless Morgan spends heavy in the areas of play/uses early pick there. Even Crumedy and Barratt could be ST starters