Basbear

congrats to eddy pineiro!!..

To everyone in this thread and other Shaq doubters. The jags came in at the same time, correct? Well here is their LB history. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/jax/career-defense.htm Shaq is right at the top in tackles and tfls. If not for this past years injury he would be their/jags all-time leader. But here on Carolina he's not even among many fans top five.

I swear the Panthers had the top draft guy from the jags on the fittterererrs staff. I can not recall his name, but that 2020 jags was in many "experts" top of the marknlist....I like it too. Plus I heard if dbrown wasn't there, 100% cj Henderson was the next guy on rhules board. If the Panthers had better team, they could have gotten a late comp form Henderson, but Dan spend the whole pile...

Looks like a winner to me!!

you still feel that way??

back2back usage hype!!

Twatter and yes to the other......Am I buying them= No. I think one of them " I see a new different TMJ...." I admit they made me pause for 8.7 seconds(just hey there's still a tiny bit of hope...), but nah its been 3 full years with weak out-put on weak units. I don't see him making the roster even with injuries hitting other WRs.

Im guilty to admit I wanted him over Matt rhule, but I don't know who's worse.....I feel josh would have won more, but left the team in a worse position.

F it panthers NEED some luck to happen why not a young player with elite traits......but please do not show his old off-season workout tape.....

Yeaaaa, I mean I get the past 6 years have been failures and sicken. Still its very common for a owner to be informed while trading "pro bowl" level players. I think tepper is the only owner thats 100%, so...... if a star player is being traded and he wants details/progress updates. Let the man have them, come on people....

Its the one group who should benefit the most from the new staff. THe HC and OC have WRC roots with great results. Plus Ive been hearing glowing reports about TMJ, whom I have gave up on. I mean this is it for him and a couple others here, no excuses for WRs.

Even the "2nd" tier LBs are ultra high- spoon- whom should have gotten the bag over Morgan. barrow- super solid. mills- look outside.. anderson- almost had 500 tacs while playing with beason, TD, luke salt and pepper while not long stays, but put up all-pro-ish numbers and caused havoc. I still remember Chris draft and his big number season as a fill-in, but that was a one time deal. Luvu put up elite numbers for 2.5 seasons as well. Hell I just remember Mark fields, he had a good couple years.... maybe placed in "3rd" line with diggs....

You should cast most of your blame on herniay who over-payed nearly everyone. He panicked hardcore when Luke dropped the retire talk on the team. Plus the level of LB history here is ultra high, he's very good.

All reports on him are ultra effort and gym rat, all great stuff. He doesn't care about SM or sponsorships, just wants to play ball. With the weak draft, someone just like him was bound to rise in the boards. Honestly I know its fluff and all, but nearly all the new blood- ownership, coaches and players seem to know that losing became "fine" here. Players that are all ball and effort are welcome to fix those who didn't understand what a winner is. Curry and Gibson can coach these players off-court as well. They could take a asshole method to fix(which you can not), but it seems the hornets may finally have a real team in the making. I hope those already here know the past will not be ok now. Im buying in and if Tidjane Salaun can develop into his potential, ooo my since most of the talent is young this could be the building block that's been missing since the return.

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White tiger!!

Just say tepper was know robber in a small neighborhood/town. Then say the local pawn shop was robbed. I feel its safe to say the huddle "detectives" are going to point the finger in teppers direction. It comes along when your rep is ultra negative. Hell I stuck up for him, but understand why Wilson may have been the 161st person tepper has fired in his brief history as owner.

He was the type that always kept a great lawn religiously, along with the flower bed/landscaping. He ALWAYS(I think I beat him twice in over ten years)beat me mowing and I seen his grass was the tallest Id ever seen it. I just went over and cut it slowly. Talked to him a few days later and he told me the horrific news. Bunch of his 1st cousins, young nieces and nephews many of whom he'd never seen......The van not only got in a wreck but also caught fire along with other cars headed to the gathering. So it was heavy on his mind and this was a wwII vet whom was in the fight. He thanked me for mowing his lawn and I made sure to not mess up while taking extra time. I always removed limbs for his lawn and knew it was his baby. Did it once more and somehow he got back into swing of normal duties. He moved about year later, he still had 80% of his hair and was a solid 215 LBs.

There is a clear recent history of firings and someone was fired. All I said it was odd timing and pointed out the pattern.

I'll add some gas, it was my understanding that tepper wanted to mimic the 49ers about DEI hires for draft draft picks. One of the deals is they have to stay at least two full years before you get 3rd comp when they leave. Wilson made it 18 months and its odd timing as well. LG has been repeating the failed hires, it is a LONG list. This is teppers 3rd Gm, 6th HC among a few presidents fired as well. We are not even talking about the huge mess of firings on soccers side either. Plus he has fired numerous presidents/ceos of his entertainment side. Many do not last the full year. There is a pattern. I believe both Dan and Dave got 6 year deals cause of the quick firing finger tepper has. At least he's not gone full jerrah and made himself GM.....