Basbear

I remember Norwell taking 1.58 years to reach the god-level status, then became highest paid OG in history. I member him being on the PS for the beginning of his rookie year as well. Seems I got to cheat and look it up. Turner was day 1 starter and he was a bad-ass til the first pay day/FCox became his daddy. Plus the main reason for starting Chandler and Bell, was cause of the pure cap hell that marty meatball leftd. Dave truly had no choice and had to play the 2 7 off-suit. God dam do I miss prime norwell... I maybe wrong about norwell taking 1.58 years to become thee legend. Still he was on the PS, just think at one point in time the leagues best LG was once available for free and 31 teams passed.

https://fanspeak.com/ontheclock-nfl-mock-draft-simulator/draft.php?d=rswhhr 6: R1 P6 OT Evan Neal - Alabama 105: R4 P3 LB JoJo Domann - Nebraska 148: R5 P6 G Nick Broeker - Ole Miss 154: R5 P12 OT Jaelyn Duncan - Maryland 195: R6 P16 EDGE T.D. Moultry - Auburn 247: R7 P28 TE Daniel Bellinger - San Diego State

WEAK-ASS OL. Strength coach should feel like he failed, DL minus Fox and reddick is soft as baby poo as well.

When you do your next one, could you show were the talent gaps are?

In most recent drafts, nearly all teams have 16-18 first round grades. If thats the deal this year, yes I do that trade. It does heavily depend on the draft board and where the talent gaps are. And what type of talent will be at 13 and 45(like OT? DE? or Safety(eww) etc etc) Panthers need more than one hero form this draft, just the facts. 4th-7th round heros are very rare... The other side is if,if,if,if,if,fiififififiiffifii Neal is there at 6.......how can you NOT draft him??? Id need more draft capital than 2nd to pass, but I can be had.....

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All my praising finally paid off this year, shame he didnt get a probowl nod like i predicted at the start of the season. Shaq, Chuba, Fox, Reddick, Taylor, tremble are about the only players who can pick up that juciy NFL check and not feel guilty this year.

I know that Im near alone in thinking Rhule needs another year(unless a clear proven upgrade wants to be here). Just dont remember this many players not acting like NFL professionals during the Fox&RR eras. Fox had a lame duck year, but the players had effort at least.....same for the RR last season, at least they were trying to cash in on free agency with good tape. Some of the poorest looking panther play I can remember, how can they watch this trash?? I want to know when the groups get together and re-watch this slop over and over, how do they feel, like honestly.......

yes...

The only help Darold gets is hard running by Chuba and AA. The OL, TEs, and WR do NOTHING to help him......I can not take seeing Moore drop passes, he must lead the league in that....anderson can not mustard the energy to get open or try.....and when he does HE ALSO HAS DROP ISSUES!!!. Not enough talent at TE....tremble have get there in a couple more years, but its a sad state of affairs there......poor blocking form them as well. Took thomas 4 years to not look like wet trash, he still a #3 at best.... Bum of bums!!

I died on the Bell was decent as RT hill, no comment on his LT play.... Do you remember the guards for that unit? I know old Kalil was manning the C spot.... was Gary Williams one of them??....also a player that last name started with a V(veslcoguygyg??) is my next guess.. I dont want to cheat...

The LT panther bar is as low as it can be, still Chirst has proved in just 2.8 weeks he is the best on the team. I still maintain moving Chirst to LG and finding/drafting a LT.... Also need a new OL coach. Sure he didn't have much to work with, but also seen other coaches take similar talent and do better,

Ive said too many times, but if ANY OG/OLmen is worse than Miller or Jordan, cut them imminently. Should be playing ALL young players shi smith, TMJ, brown etc etc.... Does anyone remember the OGs between the infamous Bell and Chandler OTs?? A tad mad I can not member them....

I concur

Rhule has completely failed in the QB solutions department for 2 years. Not only that but made it much worse, look at all the dead cap space, poor play, and overall dysfunction. Could fire him on that alone...

The robby deal I think was this. Robby was a FA and came off his best season. Panthers traded for Sam, he knew what was in store. So be firm and hold-out for more money cause an season with Sam would ruin his big free agent pay-day. Imagine how much money Robby get if had this years 400 yards 2 TD numbers on the market, maybe 2-3 million?? Pulled a true 900000 IQ move. Called that months ago. We all know Rhule is proven lair, no idea why hes stuck on doing meaning-less lying, but thats his MO. All coaches want the most juice they can get. Smart teams would allow someone like Bill Billacheat all the juice and not allow a first timer form powerhouses Baylor/Temple all the juice....

This thread is the Matt Rhule of threads.... Im embarrassed to even post here, HOLY LEE fug huddlers..

That maybe right.

I can not go that far. Rhule is a big-time lair and all, but you remember his statements about GM duties. Along the lines of "I want nothing to with being a GM, im the HC and thats all" Rough year all around form the cotton candy guy to the HC Matt Rhule.

I do think/believe Rhule has the 51% power, maybe even a tad more.

Its feels like this is becoming like the Sam vs Cam BS. When Cam plays poor its the OL, WRs, TE, D, ST, coaches, and RB fault. When Sam plays poor, its Sam fault. Honestly we do not know how much of the move, that draft pick, this player is Rhule vs Fitterer.... I do think Rhule has the 51% power. They both failed this year. period. 2022 will tell the tales for me.

Awful rough start. I know 6th rounder are what-evars, they traded one for a DE thats only be active twice (i think) for the whole season. He came form Buffalo, Dan should know him well. He can not get a jersey for ST on a team with some of the worst ST in the league. Scott, Dan and the whole front office have had a "Rhule" like season right there with the coaching staff. Without blaming Rhule the free agents, draft picks, and in-season moves have yielded very poor results. When Fitt first got here he had close to 120 million in cap space for the 2022 season. He burned nearly 4/5 of that this season!!!! I think its close to 30 million. TERRIBLE>> Can not blame Rhule for that. Awful rough start.

Not to nit pick, but he traded 3 picks for Sammy boy- 2021 4th........2022 2nd&6th He also traded 6th for a bufflao DE/STer that never gets a game day jersey(I blame Dan morgan for this mostly) Traded pro bowl perryman and a 7th tor an 6th(also got dead cap for this...) He did move Greg Little for 7th without any BS to lose the pick if greg doesnt play 12.8% of the snaps stuff. Traded a 2023 6th to prevent the Bucs form getting Gilmore, could still get a comp pick for him. His pratice squad pick ups have been poor as well, tho its not talked about.... Again I liked the moves.....not liking the results.....Id STILL do that CJ henderson trade, he was injured and didnt have a panther training camp. See how he is after a full panthers off-season, I still got big hopes for Henderson&Horn seatbelts.

2020 was at least average on the bad days......this 2021 group is just bad. Including Moton whom looks like he is pulling a Tri Turner now that he got paid, hes been pissed poor. Im a John Miller fan, but this season hes played very poor before and after coofus. Daley gets my vote as the worst of the worst. Former fan as well. Erv played about 50% "average/decent/ok" to 50% "daley" Theres some light.....I blasted on Elf, but he looks "decent" at C after a few games. Christ and Brown may get roles for 2022. Plus moton could bounce back to solid/no worries status. I still believe Christ would be one hell of a LG and Brown should be a serviceable RG as well. Need to find a NFL LT, they are much rarer than NFL QBs. Thats the biggest issue, needs to be at the top of every list.....