Basbear

I like Neal, hes a great person too. I know they loved him in the draft. He can lay the wood... LOLOLOL I swear....... hes been hit by the injury bug, hardcore. - Panthers free agents must have a history of injuries and games missed.

We dont have to say that, the tape does. What was your stance when they signed Matt Kalil?

Maybe the plan is have Joe play at RT or LT.... idk it was a odd move and a waste if you spent that on a OG with neither OT filled. Funny thing is they had Cam Erving and it seems they didnt want back for what the panthers got him for. Maybe Andy is going to suit up!!!

Denver, SF, or NE are in the market with good picks. Some wildcards like Pitt, Chicago, WFT, and no telling what Jets/Miami could pull off.

Thats honestly the biggest "WTF" signing for me. Is a combo of team, position, money, timing, cap space, etc. Joe is petty good, just not 80 million good. AND KC would have been the last team I would have placed him on, they give half a billion to Kermit. Just signed Chris Jones(2nd highest), TE Kelce is the 2nd paid TE, honey badger got dumb money too. Plus we are past the cap friendly first years, those deals are hitting hard right now.

12 million is the going rate for backups- Cam, Winston, and tyrod...

Im shocked they had the space to do so.

I dare not bet against him, only fools do..

I thought about that too much and was going to make a thread about what you just said. I wasnt big on Brown, but he played well for a rookie. Still 20/20 if given the chance to go back and pick one of the LTs, I believe thats the smart move. All three that went after Brown played great, honestly I had Wrifs as my #1 OT and hated he fell to the bucs(they traded up). I think Wrifs only allowed one sack for the whole season.... Becton looks like a future 1st team all-pro, so long injuries dont ruin him. Browns fans did nothing but brag on Wills. funny tho about Dave Gettleman had the pick of the litter and got what currently looks like the worst one out of the 4 studs.

Adoree Jackson is a 4.42 guy....before alll the injuries. I bet panthers have real interest...

Wut you mean homie?!?! Thats the perfect 2021 free agent panther, they want players with injury history!!! They will get fully healthy the second the ink dries, Rhule is veeeerrrrryyy understanding about injuries. I heard him talk about enjoying players that stay in the training room!

Missed on Griffen, so....... Checking on his speed, CB coach wants PURE speed for his players.

Bro I got Fitzpatrick in the HOF and Ill fight for that. Not a first ballot or 8 year wait, very close to the 15 year end. He is the greatest backup in NFL history for the most important position on all sports. His numbers are insane and had some of the most memorable plays too. Won with teams that had no talent, hes a magic man!

I mean a few 100k. The other two are un-knows just seems to be the current rate for LT/???. That rate could change in the next few weeks. Im no fan of Erv, but he could have easily had other teams wanting him like Pat(shocking). Got to coach these handed pick player UP. I dont want to hear about injuries either- scouts, GM, coaches wanted them.

I agree. I mean beating out Little means little. Same for whoever wins the thunder-dome.

GMs use that for leverage too- agent " I see you got 10 million in space, up your offer!!! " GM- "Nah, need all that for in-season injury insurance"

A QB needy team could give up the moon for that #4 pick, in fact thats when the price dips some.

You need to factor in-season space. *Normally* you want at least 7 million to sign free agents, cause as panther fans we know theres going to be injured players. Minimum 5 million, yea you can have 0, but thats beyond dumb and no one does it. Most teams have 8-5 in season and roll the remains next year. It gos fast, especially if everyone needs ______ , you got to up a signing bonus/other to get the player. Best way to get space(imo) would be signing Moton, Moore, and/or Anderson to extension.

I wish we had that luxury for LT. Draft is still in play, but it seems the plan for LT is thunderdome Daley, Little, Erving, Scott. Versatility is a strength for both signed OLmen, but as I stated before is it still a strength if you suck at each positions?

Heard someone say grading 0-100, if you add up Pat rating at LG, C, RG....it still doesnt get to 100.

Player Option Club Option PLAYER (5 OF 5) POS. AGE FROM TO YRS DOLLARS AAV TOTAL GTD GTD AT SIGN 2021 CAP POTENTIAL OUT Matt Feiler RT 29 PIT LAC 3 $21,000,000 $7,000,000 - - - Cameron Erving T 29 DAL CAR 2 $10,000,000 $5,000,000 $8,000,000 $8,000,000 $2,240,000 James Hurst RT 30 NO NO 3 $9,000,000 $3,000,000 $5,000,000 $4,575,000 $2,075,000 2 yr / $6,500,000 Kendall Lamm RT 29 CLE TEN 2 $6,800,000 $3,400,000 $3,000,000 $2,618,750 $2,618,750 1 yr / $3,468,750 Ty Nsekhe RT 36 BUF DAL 1 - $0 - - - This helps with some of the sting, going rate for no-named OT/LT is around 2 yr 8 million. It doesnt look as bad 24 hours later.

I like we are signing OL, just dont like the history of tape both put out along with having injuries issues too. I get it, nearly all teams are looking for OL help. With being a draft nut AND wanting OL help form 2015-current, I liked both in the draft. That was a long time ago, they havnt been rookies with potential in years. This honestly feels like the same moves a former GM would have done. Wonder if that would change some of reactions some.

Pat Elflein 0-1 Cameron Erving 0-2 Zack Kerr plays hard, cheap, and panthers need DTs. YEP lets cut him! 0-3 Im having flashbacks.....RECENT flashblacks..... yea they are somewhat "cheap", but the only thing cheap is their tape. Injuries, Injuries, a history of injuries and when they play subpar is being very nice..

Yep, over at sportac they list the agent/firm. Thought theres a chance both had the same rep and maybe you already knew. Wish you could click on the agent/firm and see their cilents. Drew would have one hell of a list... A joke I thought about when looking for a GM, would be hire drew rosenhaus and watch the world burn! I bet thats illegal but I havnt seen that listed anywhere....

That first year is nothing, at least when it jumps to 7+ million the panthers have 100 million in space. Still huge deal for a guy with 90% bad tape, needs a OL guru just like Little...