Basbear

Accurate QB play is highly illegal for the Carolina Panthers, never will happen...

Im sure many here have been married and had friendships. Heres a fact- these relationships sometimes run a course. 40 years, 5 years etc, its best for both parties to end.... Ron and panthers relationship ran its course and thats simply it. People have hit on many thing about this, but I will bring this UP. When Ron leftd/fired/whatev the team was in TERRRRRRIIIIBBBLLLLLEEE shape. OLD and lacked young talent across the whole roster. QB- no 10 year starter on hand, or backup/young QB grow and be a starter. Ron is an D main coach and the last couple seasons, his defensives have SUCKED. Phil "65 year old never called a nfl play life time" Snow had better results with 2020 that had half the talent. Players for the first time gave up on Ron, washington right now is playing like Ron's late season panther units...

No good answer. Could be talked about form now until late off-season. Only one I feel rather firm on is Carter, hes just a top backup/ST role player type. Regardless how you feel about Cam, WRs with panther QBs&OL is a giant mess. Brady has not help either this season too. 3 defensive guys are still awful young, I think Burns is still only 25? Need better coaching I feel, Rhule and his choice of Baylor/temple staff is showing hard on the these 3. Funny cause 2020 looked much better in future regards than 2021. I really think Rhule needs to get some different NFL voices/minds in the building.....yea I know he doesnt fire coaches(he did fire DL coach). Still in order to save your NFL career, he needs to bring in NFL coaching talent. The thing is his temple/baylor staff many were the first time they gotten to that high "level"......so only 3 years as a DL coach at college level and thats your best choice??? My god wake up Rhule...... This whole deal feels like a youth issue, coaching staff and players. Public wants results NOW!!! It doesnt always work that way in the real world.

I dont place him in the big fish market, he is a unique group. Bilacheat, Reid, Mcvay, etc would be unexpected big fish that Ill be all for canning Rhule for. Plus I feel its fair to get Rhule and crew at least his 3rd year.

I have noticed a few lines of attack against the panthers. Use their speed against themselves. Force confusion among the DBs. If having success rushing the ball, dont stop and even call the same plays over and over(duh...). Again they look young and play young, seems phil is having troubling getting the adjustments to work on the field when they are needed. Plus...Im coming with another red hot take ala dont pay CMC in 2019 style. Chinn, brown, burns(at times), YGM(killing me..), recent Djak are playing poorly for what is needed form them. Fox, Shaq, Jones, Reddick, Hartsfield, and Burris are doing the best they can. No issues with any of them, just about everyone else is not bring their A game. Too many time have I seen one of this group save a play causes the others had mistakes/poor effort/not where they need to be/etc. I like what the way henderson played against the phins, his best game. Carter is a bench/top backup/ST only player. Big mistake for the coaching staff to allow perryman to leave while picking Carter. Roy at least puts out effort and a few plays each game, he played the biggest role in getting a series stopped. This group badly needs REAL MLBs & LBs. perryman would have made a huge swing in the ++++. Figure out the safetys as well, Chinn is not one. Burris looks beatup after each 12 yard tackle...

If they truly were a top 5 D, you wouldnt need that many words/ifs/whats/etc to prove it. If...(theres that word)....if you want to keep up the "top 5" stuff go for it. Season is not over, i could be off as well.... Personally Im at same spot I was when you and many other were using the top 5, they are around the 12th. Get exposed badly vs true top 10 Offense, they dictate what happens on the field NOT the panthers. I swear without showing my age and knowing the nfl rules are all for scoring, this is not a top 5 defense unit. That means theres no 190 rushing yards, no 600 total yards, no making average QBs look like HOFers, no 8 yards rush per attempt, no yelling at one another on the side-lines, and NO red zone weakness. The offense has nothing to do with the effort, which I thought was weak at times. Sure its demoralizing and such, but be a god dam pro. They are playing like a young talented group, can see the 2022 be in the top 10..maaaaayyybe with some luck(resign reddick, hit on couple vets, etc) they could hit the 5th in a couple stats. Ive seen faaar too many games against top 5 than for it. Keep pounding!

I asked this then and I ask again- What on earth...stop...how did Rhule become the "hottest" prospect in the NFL? Panthers were not alone in wanting him, even year before the Jets wanted him. Plus how did he honeydick billionaire Tepper when they met at his home? That face-to-face preaching power must be beyond numbers.

The broad has the worse case of bio-polaress since since 2007. One week we are going to the superbowl and Rhule is the best coach in panther history. 7 days later tank for better pick/we are not winning another game PERIOD & FIRE EVERYONE!!!!!!!! Rhule is fat toad in over his head, not even worthly to be a high school coach. I thought by 48 hrs most of the BS would be over, wrong. My 24 hr rule is looking out of date..

I think his 2nd biggest win was against a 18th ranked ECU.......... ecu had their normal dive after the game...

Thomas davis said "this 2021 team is better/more talented than the 2015 one". I laughed hard and got mad about him giving the fans hope. I said the 2015 team would skull drag 2021 unit and you dis-agreed with that. Even said you should know better, but you seem to think that this team would beat or even be favored. Now at 5-7, I wondered if you had a chance of heart?

Its been touched on here and there. But the guy has some heavy baggage and did not have great answers when it gets brought up in interviews.

Some team will offer him a insane deal and he will/should take it. Another 2nd round pick not re-signing with team, the herinay special is still alive and well.

Sup Scot, I was curious if still feel the 2015 team would not beat this 2021 team....like Thomas Davis said they were more talented as well. Do you want to change that opinion more given more games have been played or doubled down?

Dang out of the game and I forgot about him. He put together a great staff his first time. Im still in the "give rhule 3 years" group......but if a legit big name hits the market and has tepper's dollars in his mind....bye rhule..

If you find them, mine 20 or so posts about not paying him should be around them. Took heavy heat for that, just like many of my opinions......just like my other hot takes, I was right.

Thats was me too, HOLY LEE fug...... I fully understand why my uncle tried his whole life to coach college ball. Insane what happen to the coaching market in just 2 days. Five days ago jim harbaugh was thought of as a massive over-pay........now they may need/almost must give him a pay increase. Still now his contract is peanuts, what a difference in couple days...

CMC needs to take a pay cut. PERIOD. If he doesnt, make other plans to trade/release him. You can focus the entire Offense around one player that can not stay on the field. Period. Especially if that player is the highest paid, EVEN AFTER 10 other elite RB signed deals. Beyond pissed about CMC and that contract that never should have been offered. Heading into 2022 he would have been a FA, LIKE HE SHOULD BE! No other team in history have paid RBs like the panthers, madding...

I thought you were talking up the D petty hard, like top 5? I tried to give some logic, but you know.... CRA Im pissed too, beyond tired of the tease that is panthers. I just didnt have high hopes at the start and lucky enough to had training to not become a bio-polar shizo when times get tough. I think the whole board needs to calm down, just they are releasing all the emotions on the board and by god thats ______ .

Any of you want to change/adjust your "top 5" D given the last two games?? Elite Tua and Heinke no-lubed them while Scary Terry and Waddle waited their turns.... 3rd in line was what ever RB getting 8 yards a clip.... I'll stick with my "feelings"......may have change it form 12ish few spots later.....but I'll remain...for now.

I stand by what i said. Do me a favor; try to turn the bio-polar and recent losing emotions.....should take some time.....some more than others. ok... What did you have for W-L at the start of the season, before the 3-0 start? I had them at 7-10 and thats looking about right. Why now at 5-7 is the whole world over? Where are these exceptions and why are they so unreal?? Im pissed off too, mainly about the panthers being the greatest tease in sports history. But again this is the 2nd season into maybe the hardest rebuild in NFL history. Many posters need meds, holy fug....

Im not ready to drink Christ for LT, but I will take a gulp if its the LG cup.... He did play better LT....well than any panther has this season for what 30 snaps? Im beyond pissed at Daley, that guy has to be the most injuried player in panther history. Never one to cut a player, especially if the player was picked by me to play LT this year...The guy can not stay on the field, I have no idea why youd give him a jersey at this point.....Just wait 10 snaps and the training staff will be helping him off the field. Now hes going to miss the next 2 games.....come back and same god dam thing will happen. Right now Im here for 2022 LT- draft pick 1st round or pray for a decent vet LG- Christ C- Elf RG- 299.9999999 lb Brown or Lumber jack free agent try out magic scout find or ??? or CMC asks the team to bring back GVR RT- Moton Top Backups Teck, Erv, Hoton

Tis the NFL and its been more unpredictable than past years. Lots of upsets the week before this past. Panthers going need some of that "luck" to make the playoffs.... No teams feel above others to me. Feels like 20 teams are the "best" and 12 lesser that could upset one form the 20. GB and AZ do not feel like the best W-L teams. Right now Wash is playing better than TB and panthers. I would hate to play NE right now as well, now THATS a top 5 D...... If the panthers truly had a top 5 D, they beat washington easy.

He looked great far as being on the couch less than two weeks ago. He did look older to me and wiser as well.(not the same explosion and did baseball slide). No bad TOs and was a big reason panthers were in the game. Takes about one month to learn a new system, I hope hes remains healthy til then...

Washington was on their 3rd starting C early into the game. FYI our former all-pro Tyler Larsen started the game...... Brown should have wrecked all of them, I at least saw Jones make a few plays. They also lost the starting RT early as well, still ran all over panthers DL. where are those poster saying this is a top 5 D, I need to see how they are currently??