Basbear

Right side alone should have the panthers in 20s. PFF has NO CLUE AT ALL what the responsibility, play call, or adjustments for OL each snap. Guessing on grading much like all of their grading. The same PFF that ranked Dallas #2 WR when they had the following receiving yards weeks 6-17= 247 59 (fuging RLOLs) 132 (LOL) 220 196 187 (jesus) 277 171 (my god are we sure these are not rushing stats??) 204 362(finally one close to league average) 199 "You see Bas PFF does this cause stats" bullshit. PFF - "Bills WR has 80.78 high point grade and its supported by his separation grade of 67.59." They also use their rookie ranking to project in these ranking as well, so its not stats or understanding their guess at grading. Im going to quit wasting my time with PFF since I understand its Bullshit. Same gos for trying to help others see the layers of fraud. PFF is only a tiny bit ok if you have no idea about the player or team. Like a person thats never followed any football and is getting fresh/green into NFL.

kinlaw is getting some push form 49ers about breaking out....I think Brown already broke out last year.

Only way those ranking work if your include QB. Otherwise its a dumpster water take to believe Pre-2020 Curtis Samuel is worth 12 freaking spots. PFF has lots of predicting and projecting in those ranking, so again its up to you and that stat statement as their guide. David Moore, Marshall Jr, and Smith are better than 2020's 3-6, PFFFffff should moved panthers into the top 5 ranking. Plus Dallas at 2nd over all...... I try all I could, drink up and be merry my guy. Drink up that pre-season 2020 8th overall panther ranking as well. Lastly Id have them in 10th-ish rank and Id say they have improved the talent even with the lost of HOFer Curtis "Im worth 12 WR ranking spots before my "breakout 851 yards 3 TD" season" Samuel. Now I need a MRI....

You hit on two things that stuck with me. The volume of children, I seen 50+ and it 100% wrecked me. You like I never felt sorry for myself, plus I prided myself on not complaining at all. Anyone that sees all those brave strong kids and remains constantly woe is me about some 1st world problems, just are not humans. Do me a favor and keep staying cancer free.

Man I thought I was tough, walking though the Duke Kids care center....broke my cold heart....Im getting teary now thinking about it.

I have given some thought to mans best inventions- with not picking canned beer, slice bread, wallet, and whiskey. Its a little gray area too with my idea and many dont use/have one currently. My current best guess is a decent air compressor. Now the the gray area is you need tools to attach to the unit, so..... But my god at what its capable of, near endless options and it transforms you into a stronger, smarter, and faster man. Save gas with having correct air pressure in tires, blow off leaves, cut/grid steel, loosen/tighten bolts, drive nails, etc etc. Honestly mans best inventions is the ability to control fire....... off in the far distance is a shower...so my air compressor may not even be in the top five......cause those some many others contenders battery, car, A/C, million medical things, plane, Dupont, bra, computer chip, A bomb, toilet that you can sit on..... Interwebz went form being one of the best to worst currently, having the same issues as the gun....

Answer this CRA- If PFF is largely stat driven, why were the panthers ranked 8th last year?? If you want to continue, all that was lost was pre-2020 Samuel. Added was David Moore, Marshall JR, and Shi Smith. Youre telling me pre-"breakout" Samuel is worth 12 spots??? Please get a MRI if you believe that and I was the biggest Samuel fan here. Green Bay you say? At least you covered yourself with Rodgers, how would the panthers WRs and TEs look with Arod?? 5k and 45 TDs could be reached. Plus you do know I think 8 of his 40 TDs were 1 yarders, just putting that here. Adams is elite and maybe the best WR in NFL, should be in everyone top 3 and 100% in everyones top 5. He carrys that group, MUCH like Moore carries the Panthers group. Say Adams is a 10, Moore is right there at a 9. Now Panthers #2-6 WRs >>>>>>> Packers #2-6 WRs. Not close at all. Ill be glad to give notes on each if asked, Arod makes #6s put up 2-3 numbers. Packers Tonyan, honestly I dont know him like the others, did put good TDs numbers. Give it to the packers here, but panthers added Arnold and Tremlbe so much like Adams > Moore, its close.....but the winning spot for Carolina is #2-6. Anderson and Marshall have much more talent&skill than Lazard and Ted Ginn ....er I a mean Valdes-Scantling. 8 to 20th cause they lost pre-breakout Samuel and they added Marshall, Moore, and Smith. Bigger joke than Blowboys being 2nd overall, my god PFF has the dumpster water opinions at times. Dont drink the water my guy!!

phins, giants(ehhh...), steelers, Seahawks, Chargers, packers and for sure washington Its close group- Dallas- cooper is living off the past, lamb is legit and my fav WR in that rookie class, Gallup hurt himself last year. No TEs like panthers, honestly Id take panthers over them but its close Bills- Diggs and ??? beasley and no TE and old man sanders.. pfftt Viking-like the panthers its strong two and even rookies and ???? at TE Broncos- Sutton lost was a big, he was my fav fantasy sleeper. They have depth and talent Browns(without OBJ)-got better without their best WR. Never been a landry fan, but hes got the stats. Unlike most they have plenty of TEs. Higgins was a late season stat machine 49ers- Kittle saves this group and Deebo is a god dam beast larping as a WR. Got young talent too, but not that much different form panthers Beaguals- big 3 and nothing else. If not for Chase being in the pre-season HOF Id place panthers above, but they are close as well Bucs, Chiefs,Rams clear ahead Blowboys at 2 is a fuging joke as is PFF. I maybe able to put the giants anywhere form 4- 22. They are the wildcard. Where do you put the panthers RB group, or should I look for it on PFF??

I think this is Finesser and Rhule trying to find loopholes with the try-outs rules. While many have moved on form convid, NFL still has rules to prevent out breaks. Seems they are limiting how many players are able to try out. I know where finesser came form, they lead the league in tryouts and UDFAs for much of his time there. It cost money and time to bring in a fellow for try outs, some teams didit like to paid thousands for a 1 out 839 chance the guy could replace a practice squad member, ie Beaguals. Seattle/NE truly didnt care about money and where draft and both didnt limit themselves to passing on street free agents. I'll also say this Rodney Smith was cut about this same time last year(I think he was was days after he signed as a UDFA) and he came back in season. Smith got real NFL snaps as a UDFA, that was not talked about last year, but I member it! So dont give up hope on your dream backup Tommy Stevens @MHS831

Were are my pills?.....screw it shitspit ballins here- Watsons value/worth trade wise is at the lowest it can be(wellll.....) Gringer Cringer backup would place the panthers in maybe the best QB group with a simple trade for Watson.

Need more of this on the huddle-

Whats on your radar for Watson to Panthers? It does feel like Panthers have the worst QB group/situation in the whole league. If you get cut form this group, your career may not be in the NFL.... so Grier is going to be another one of herniays 3rd round bust, great..... not even a ok insurance policy.

Feeding the trolls is a issue on this board... All it takes is like 3 posters to take the bait and the rip any discussion.....then it starts to carry over to future threads. Feels like some posters are new to the interwebz, Ive been online too long also.....

I totally get reaching your wits end and if a poster is a true cancer, its best to remove them. Honestly my way has a huge problem, your have to deal much more poo. Just like having a open mind, your best skill better being able to find the diamonds in the mountain of poo. Plus the trolls are not as entertaining as before. All I can add is dont take everything so serious, look at it as entertainment and dont give them your time. Just dont fall in a echo chamber thats the worst possible out-come....

So super high on Moore, in the top 10. Robbie at the start of 2020 was the hottest WR in league for weekS) and many on this board were saying "Robbie is the panthers true #1". He spent most of his career flirting with 1k each year. Moore and Anderson both have had AWFUL QBs(hmmm...) help during their career and still put up solid/among league leader stats. Panthers drafted Marshall, whom many had a 1st grade on. Smith was a steal late. David Moore has been a #3 and had average #3 stats on a team that focused 90% targets on the top 2 WRs. Again Moore is only WR with 1200 scrimmage yards the last two years and you are claiming him as a top 10 overall. That whole package is not better than 20th??? Talent wise with this dis-respect, panthers WR group need to release a 90s diss track. I will state league wide it feels like this is the best era of WRs and the TDs numbers are pathetic. Not enough bad for this group to be 20th tho.. Where would you rank panthers RB group since we are at this point, again firm number is wanted... And where do you rank this group compared to past panther WR groups? I will fully understand the difficultly in comparing past groups, honestly impossible but this is a fan board.

Dont count out Daley, hes my surprise pick for LT....and if no luck there LG is a nice landing spot.

I think....rethink....there are rumors out there now that the league is keeping NO limit IR returns along with 16 man Practice squads. found the source - https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1400166466154991617 If you ask me making HGH legal would do wonders for the league/team, so long its under doctors care.

Top 16 duo? I know its not the pfffft statement, Im just trying to gauge your feeling on Moore and ANderson. NFC is WR murders row.....which is a big reason for me being "ok" with horn pick. Still I think Moore and Anderson alone should push that rating higher. I believe Moore is the only WR with 1200 scrimmage yards in the last two years. TDs are very low for both. ANderson is a 1k and long yard machine. For the first 5 weeks ANderson was either leading the league or very close in most stats. Where do you rank Moore overall?, please give a firm number.

Miller looks long and lean, hes got to stay healthy.....which will be near impossible. Hes in the Thomas/Little group for me, was my fav pick in 2019, but its a whole new team now.

https://twitter.com/PanthersBill/status/1400137426320887810?s=20 Put my guy Burris in a blender......hope Burris was going half/OTA speed....

I try to live with a no block life, will say theRed put it to a test. Litterbox crew only sperg out in random threads, then worm back to their hallow holes. I still fight for Chuck to post with freedom..... even thought its Chuck and he dis-likes my opinions at times. His Trainwreck alt has had some old school chuck vibes at times, its a tab too trolly currently tho... I also try to just read the posts and not whom posted it, I hate putting people on list due to one comment form 4 months ago.

Where would you rank the duo of Moore and ANderson?

{cast poop defensive spell} Shula was a good QB coach.....

Who does Matt Rhule report to???.....

One thing most are over looking is convid made it much easier for O than D. Snow also had to over come that while the NFL went a scoring rampage. Brady struggled while many other OCs broke all their records. Snow surprised the hell out of me and I would worry about him leaving, even tho Texans just hired a 66 year old guy.