Basbear

At the time(during the draft) when the first trade happened, I didnt agree. The more the trading took place, I started to understand and by the time the 5th round rolled around.... They where able to draft Nixon, Taylor and followed with Smith and Brown.......... I truly was on board, just was not use to this method and didnt see the whole picture til the near finish. For sure Finesser improved the draft class that year and added the first 4th this year. He walked into a casino full of sharks with 1,000 and came out with 1,573. Not bad for a first time. I did want to keep the 2nd and draft Liam Eichenberg...... Figured he was the best true LT left and panthers still need one today. Issue is only one team had worse OL than the panthers and that was Miami.......who drafted Liam......who also played LG after bouncing around.....so..... Could it have been different if landed else where, sure...but thats a rough start. Luckily I dont judge until year2.

4th round is looking ______ each passing day....

I doubt the NFL follows this has been going on for 20+ years.

I buy that. Maybe the biggest skill is being able to play hurt/sore/busied/etc. Every single player has injuries, its those who are able to keep the high levels while hurt. Theres a few get a sprain or sore, then play falls off a cliff.

This is my "QB sandwich" I keep having a hard time draft ILB.....

I do believe trading back is the way, I got some real doubts Finesser can pull it off.

He was the classic look like tarzan play like jane.

They are right and I agree. Give him no more excuses and see if he can overcome maybe the worst 4 year OL start to ones career. Its alllll the hope I got left, pleeeeease bump ANY Darnold thread when they first traded for him......Its me in there calling him the worst proven QB and panthers may have the worst overall QB room. I did see the first round talent, his mental game is my greatest fear...

i dont know if bait or not. i do hold a 8% hope that if the panthers have a decent OL, fully season CMC health, TEs/WRs improve/grow more.....Sam can be good enough. I did see real talent in a few games, but the biggest issue is 4 years of running for his life would change ANY player. Hes needs reprogramming, dont know if current staff can work this miracle.

i surprised juilo isnt a packer right now..

Sam needs a publicist right now. In fact I would do it, once Sam sends me the going rate for a publicist year's salary..... I would solve all his problems in one statement- "Stop talking and giving interviews".

3 Ifs If panthers can not trade back If Kayvon is still available IF both Neal and Ink are gone Then Kavyon is the realist BPA and Id all for picking him even with knowing his few red flags. Just too much talent and panthers low-key need another DE to pair with Burns. My opinion has gotten better, just got to believe his focus is high effort NFL ball. I think hes more than able.

I believe the 2013 one didnt have a QB in the top 15, tho I think the bills picked EJ Manuel with the 16th pick and everyone laughed at them for years....

juan, Can I borrow 1.07??

If Sam wanted attention, he picked a great dead zone for it....... Ive listen to bits and it felt like listening biden. More talk more down-falling, tho Sam would do better if he knew the questions.

Dont tell anyone but I had offered Chuck on one his 4,598 alts that Jamin Davis would have the better year over Parsons.......................... Parsons should have gotten a few DMVP votes, in the three games I watch, he was a game changer......super impressive. Best D rookie since ADarnold. I even remember him doing pushups on the sideline cause he needed the work.....legit and I was wrong about him not being worth a top ten pick.

It's correct, the WR salaries are insane and nearly QB levels. You could put TMJ here too if he lives up to his hype. props to panthers staff.

This thread is a good window in the current thoughts and actions of people. It's maybe the biggest problem the USA is facing- defending wrong. Dislike someone, some group, some opinion, some numbers, now you have to dig in deep and hate everyone else about that person/group/topic etc. Just sad. What happened.....

I would take iants two 1st for the 6th, try to squeeze a couple late rounders...but i would do it for 2 in the mid.

I need more points. top 6 jump form 29 is a whole different deal. Many teams only give 16 players 1st round grades. Im not getting a first rounder in talent if you are drafting 29th. Plus all the work the scouts put in and now the plan is totally different? Nah I need more.. as busta says- "gimmie some moar!"

Its fine, minor draft fun addition.

Yea i need more than that. About my fav moment form the draft late year was Tepper- " DONT CALL US WITH NEGATIVE POINTS!!!!" While Finnesser and Rhule were in full war room mode. 1-6th is a prime spot.

Just a nice fair friendly bet, no mortgages involved. Just ava picture rights and lite ribbing.

@LinvilleGorge I came up with a good fair bet. Terms- If howell is drafted 1-29 you win. 30th= push 31 and back me Avatar rights until first real panther game. Deal?