Basbear

theres what 4-6 game breaking WRs?? You got a high bar there friend, have you looked around the league some.......just look close to home at the iants and failcons. Plenty of teams would trade the whole WR group for panthers WR group. Please consider the recent OCs and QBs in your formula as well.

I mean things around here look real desire, but if either russy or mr. tiny white cloth were panthers right now......it would be 30x worse, no troll...

Moore is good enough. *only one my friend... Shi Smith flashed some Robbie had a 937 yard and 1008 season, plus 4.2 speed.....now gone TMJ was the highest ranked WR at LSU. fyi JJ was there and chase too. Laviska Shenault was drafted 42nd overall(2020) and high on many teams boards. Higgins good solid pro as a 4/5 guy with a coupld of 600(close) yarders on his resume with 4 TDs couple years as well Thats decent/good/average/whatevers/ given the QB play over the years. Think of the number with Allen, mahomes, arod, etc..

Imagine if the panthers traded for Russy Wilson alll those picks two 1st and two 2nd plus a bunch more, 2 former (still in rookie deals) early picks......AND gave him 250 million!! I would need to take a panther/NFL break if that was the current landscape. Be like having all Rhules as a coaching staff...

We are at the fork, I misunderstood you not saying it lower the cap. Then you brought in the players form left field and it got weird. agree it lower 2023 and much more work is needed?

YOU WILL WATCH DENVER PLAY IN PRIME TIME GAMES!!!

Im hardcore trolling my guy!! should have added a S/

I would give your left nut for Herbert QB services.....

Moore is there for me and I just learning about phillys DC and OC.....awful young them all.... DOnt want quinn, I was never scared of him at ATL. did everyone forget the 7-9 seasons followed by a 0-5 start??? He was like RR, a defense "guru" that alll the success came form a QB......each passing year both RR and quinns D got worse and worse.....pass, hard pass...

he knows the cap well, which is odd about him hung up on anderson not lower the cap next year. whatever past that with the other stuff. stbugs is good on cap stuff too.

For robbies looks, he is very smart......he knew when Sam Darnold came, his numbers would considerably drop, the result would also hurt his market value. 900 IQ ANderson then held out to get him a bag while coming off his best year. Super smart. He had Rhule in his corner and got 2 more years for 30............. but as you see, finnessererererer is gotten the blame for it.....

God dam I feel just like the CMC and Darnold deal, I dont want to overpay Burns....I hold at 22 per and dont even want to do that......99 reset the market(should have), burns could get very close to 30per if he was a FA, id bet that. Just dont want to be the team paying that, just like CMC getting 16per. No clue what his agent wants, but if its north of 22......trade him for a watson package.....

I dont want too, just your hung up on andersons trade not lowering the 2023 cap and it did. Then you bring in 38 players. Hard to future tell, but they got 4 picks and who knows if finnessererer trades back for more or less(done both). 42 and add 2 UDFAs thats 44. Maybe 2 PS guys from this year are on min deals for 2023, thats 46. You know the 51 rule, you can sign 5-7 more for low salaries. Moore, Burns, and many other contracts would be "reworked" to add space. Thats the nut shells, but fact was andersons contract is gone and they are below the cap right now. Plus the league has not even set the cap, everyone predicts it will go up much like past years non-coofus years.

When is the time Tepper gets some blame??? cause Im past ready....

iants were winning and panthers were losing. It only works well with winning teams.

iants trick in simple terms player X signs for 20 million for 4 years. mickey says " we will give you one million each year" player x "but I still get the 80 right" Mickey - "of course" current cap budget - 200 million 4 years from now cap budget- 270 million. salary in 4 years - 76 million and they cut you or start over again with a new 4 year deal...

would you take chris ballard??

Thats true and all, but they were 10ish in the red before and now they are not. Hence below the cap. They were planning on cutting anderson, got a buyer and same affect. Yes draft class and need more players, but now they dont have anderson to worry with. top 51 count, Im sure you know that as well.

bro they were like 90 million in the red during coofus 2020. Mickey is a cap wizard and smarter than anyone when it comes to it *but you have to pay up at some point...... Mick always bet on the cap increase and spending 20 million in the future than the now. If the cap gos up 5-9% each year its wiser to spend the future money cause its less % of the whole cap four years form now.

@Toomers theres the numbers, in this thread there are others. I dont know what you need.

Tepper was telling people inside the building "Watson will be a panther" for YEARS....even zob reported it. They did make room for him and once it got to watsons team saying "its going to take a 250 million deal to land mr watson" allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll sudden tepper grips his wallet and that was maybe the first time he made the correct choice during his panther ownership... Again Finnesserrerer is blame for that, just following the real boss orders....but still his fault......

He is not without blame. Hes not teflon. I believe a good portion was just following orders. Plus twatter had reporst that the anderson trade put them below the cap, idk. Hes much better than herniay in rounds 2-7 already. He has not signed a teddy2gloves like contract to anyone. His worse contract is the robbie anderson extension, whom do I feel is 100% fault for that?? His name doesnt start with a S and end with a R. If hes fired, I wouldnt complain or be upset. i do like him getting value in the drafts via trade points and such. Also do love hes willing to go after high reward low risk type of trades, the ones Herniay was scared to do(minus olsen). I do know this, 100% Id take him over Herinay. 2 years is enough for me, but hes not reached elite GM status.....hell chris ballard was thought of as elite annnnnnddddd thats had to change some given the last 2 years. Im both willing to allow the shot at picking his HC and wouldnt lose sleep if tepper fired him 2day.

I do not think Finnesererer is the cause for losing. Hes done a good work of doing what the boss wanted. Boss wants high RAS players, he got them. Boss wanted QBs with 1st round traits, he got them. etc etc. Now hes survived a bunch of coaches that had no business in the NFL. Now he maybe the boss, but I believe it will be a joint 50/50 with tepper having veto power. No one coach/GM should have full power unless its the goat Bill Bilacheat..... Hell thats another one, bill is awful at the draft and coaches up those 4th string DB form rutgers into wins.....Bill would trade Bill the GM for Scott the GM.

Still no matter what, tepper needs to put a top secret move and hire a 008-like firm to find a GM. Gets the results and make up your mind to keep Finssererer or hired one of the ones you want. I do not think this can be done without Finssererer finding out tho, thats a issue. That Rhule stink is OP my friend....