Basbear

Its about 20, all the early WRs and QBs(could even include Davis Mills(i would)) Sewell, Pitts, Horn, Surtian, Parsons, the MLBs etc are allll better than the 2022 players. Slater is debatable, same for a few others JPhillips could be the best edge in this draft. Both RBS Harris and Eti are better than ANY RB in this class, in fact no one even talks about them cause they are soo poorly thought of. Its one of those 20/20 deals, just a weak cream class and 100% would rather have Trey Lance than any player in this draft. Personally if had the 1st, Id take Sauce. Hes just the best form this group. A part due to the increase in WR value. CB can stop QBs and WRs, Sauce it is......hard for a CB to go first. I would, no question.

I admit I was driving the Lance spaceship, I still believe BY FAR he would be the 1st pick. I mean Kyle is one of smartest O-minded coaches out there and he picked Trey to run the show whenevar jimmyg is traded/cut.. kittle weighs in - https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/157666-george-kittle-says-49ers-lance-insane-ceiling-compares/ Lych speaks about trey here, hes a believerr(i mean what else, huh?)- https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1eaKbNpPeQZKX

You can make a case that drafting Jordan Love gave Arod the means to win a MVP..... same type of case could be made about Jimmyg lance.....

Lance would be the cleaaar 1st overall in this non-cream draft, in fact about 20 players form last year would be picked before anyone in this years. For sure Id take Lance over not having a first this year.

"My momma said im a big boy now"

I followed until MJ earned the worst owner label, dont followed like I once did. Was a fantasy BBall machine finishing 1-3 in all sort of leagues(got plenty of yahoo trophies). The lazy careless play until 2 minutes until half/end and the constant 3 shooting like even on fast breaks broke me. Im a old fossil soul with liking Mark Jackson/Anthony Masons types post up fools and a sucka for a good defensive battle. Thats not the game and Im sure they dont miss me. I still have every single Shaq rookie card(along with many others) and was a huge big man fan, theres no big guy ballin like 20+ years ago. Jokic and Embiid even hang out at the half court chuckin up 3s, yuck barf... Only one Bball jersey in my closet and its the worm, god do I miss watching him out work everyone for the ball. Missed anything you said about MJ, hes no longer the worst ower...thanks to the miracle Mitch pulled off. Another day I may share my full MJ story.. He did in fact hit on my ex-girl friend. Only hurt is I lost all respect for him being a married "man". Well at least i got to hear his voice and soon after learned about his cheating rep.....his poor poor wife.

Only to fans with the football insight to blindly support trading for Sam "durRrr" Darnold before and weeks afterwards..

I think its just toooo much or just a bad timing or wrong to use early draft resources on a QB form this group. This isnt a cream draft and its lacks QB talent too. Maybe 20+ players form last years draft Id take before anyone in this draft, including 5 QBs. I think the Minshews, Bakers types are the best form of improving the QB spot this year. I do feel the LT is petty deep and Campen has right about there being a few decent LT options late in the draft. Edge and OT are the best groups, QBs are the worst.

Jordan needs to build Mitch a 50 statue as a thank you to pulling him form the worst owner label that was right. Between 7-59(which is still the worst win/loss% in NBA history), Adam "_____" Morrison, Kwame Brown, DeSagna Diop, awful trades, past poor attendance....He was the worst. Mitch saved him by having enough balls to say "no" to his face along with doing supreme drafting in both rounds each year. I think this past year was only the 4th time in MJs 20 years that the bobcats/hornets had a winning record. Hes around .420 win%, wwwoooooffffffff....

The whining has not stopped for the past 6 months. At one point there were 10 weekly threads repeating the same drool - Matt rhule sucks, matt rhule is fat, matt rhule is stoopid.....

They already signed 2 other QBs in brissett and dobbs. Both have started games, mayfield is not part of any browns plans.

I never got a good read on Cross. Plays are almost over by the time he engaged the defender. Tony has real draft sources and has been in the draft game before it got mainstreamed. The olllllllld thought about teaching pass block vs run block, nearly all say teaching passing is much harder. Run blocking can be greatly improved by simply doing weight-room lifts over&over til you get stronger. Pass is heavily technique-based with lots of foot work.

@Icege you want to do another one. David Ojabo tore his achilles during his pro-day. Personally I have huge doubts Jermaine Johnson falls to 15th and 1-3 edges to start would be a first. Still looks just as good as the others.

No no.....the best highest value is 4th-UDFA. This is maybe the only drat in recent history where Id trade a bunch of 4s, 5s, 6s for a earlier pick. The UDFA group should be the best form the last 10 years. 2nd rounders are still far above the 4th-UDFA group. Just more draft-able players in this years mainly due to coofus effect.

Jets call the panthers and offer the 10th, 69, and 111 for the 10th pick? Is that enough? I mean personally theres no difference between 6 and 10 in this 2022 rating wise. Ravens, viking, and others can offer there 1st (10-18) picks plus 2nd rounders and late rounders for the 6th.....Why wouldnt you do that if a group of seven players are rated the same? I could take a different approach next year. Honestly the meat part of the draft is 4th-UDFA...

Ive been to many places across the globe......Im here to tell you NC is among the top 3.

good as any others. always a fan of anyone that sports that avatar @davos One part I can pick apart is Garrett Wilson WR Ohio State, he could /should go top 5, but waaaaay before 15th. The league changed this off-season for WR value. WRs have the QB deal of being over-valued now... Move up all WR including the bama Jameson Williams who should go top 10 even with a ACL in the bowl game......

Lets say you have 8 players rated in the 60-63 group. Couple teams phone you up and one offers couple later picks plus their 100th pick to move up to 88? Isnt the smart move to take the offer? Once 100 comes you still have 3 players(since no boards are the same) left to pick form the 60-63 group, plus you got 197 and 215. Seems simple to me....

Scot-irish reporting. Well Mother was 100% Glasgow scot and father was scot-irish. Small background. Farther served and no man in the multi-platoon groups could take the 6'2 225 man or "boss" his given nickname form enlisted during bull in the ring. Ive done some contract work for the air force, maybe another time. NC polar bear was one of mine nicknames..... I will be 110% honest with you and all other real Americans. The agenda driven message being spread in the military with their lower standards and re-writing history.......... ALL of you better pray to all the 3,000+ gods that drones, lasers, and robotics are fully ready come next war. No matter what the elite brain-washing has done theres ONLY one group/type that I want on the field of battle next to me. Hint was given first.....

I blame hernaiy for most of that, he never never believed in a true rebuild ala stock pile picks.....he always thought his team had a opportunity. I think they lost nearly 60% of the total snaps and stats......huge loss no matter the coach. 2023 should be a better QB draft, but Im no future teller. Rhule QB decisions have been painful, wish stanford agreed to come and it would have saved the Sam Darnold trade... dem the brakes.

Going to be cool that thrusday, pack a jacket! I brought some RRR (rich&rare reverse) on special. No food until I caught my buzzz. I think the draft starts at the panthers pick, if they trade back, I will stay til the whiskey wins. If they make a pick, re-watch the new batman movie.....it was bad the first time..

Its not talked about, but i think next years cap is in the red right now. Thats without a QB..........one solution is a rookie QB salary is awful low... The debate about Quality prospect over quantity, is one of those never ending ones like poor people and climate. For me I look at the roster, if its a deeeeep proven team- gimme the quality. If is not- gimme the quantity. Simply put panthers need quantity.

Id 100% draft him in the top ten. Plus gutt-busting LOLLLOLOLOL at thinking he should come off the field. He may have had the most impressive combine in history and all his SEC snaps were havoc. I think he needs to be doubled week 1. If he doesnt go top ten, the league has failed.

If pickett is drafted by the panthers, Im blaming you......