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I believe his best season was the contract year, the classic. I think the coaching staff did play a big role, Samuel needed one of the top talents to unlock his potential. The constant ratio of new coaches helps no one, especially players that need more attention on how to be used.

That would be like picking your favorite child and you have 13 of them. Too hard for me, about 25 are in the same top shelf spot. I remember the pusher episode the most out the three you listed. I swear xfiles had some of the best villains.

Tru. Just the tin foil angle was rookie defenders and.....{applies more layers to head and body}......... Dan said Nic was a first rounder, some mocks had Ransom in the 2nd, Prince was a 3rd rounder and Cam was a 5th rounder...... JJJ adds 3 more layers along with goat comments...

Steven Losoya is a rookie too!!!!11!!! - confirmed panther ring of honor.... The others hurt my fun thread.....

If Renfrow can put JC horn in a blender like many of the CBs during his 21 season, I will gladly join the hype train.. Until then I got him on the PS working his way back into the NFL and hopefully replacing 35 year old ATs role next season as a 30 year old. Im glad he's here for this deep WR group, its long over due in this passing league to have around 10 legit level NFL WRs for the team(PS included). Plus I like having young group of WR with a young QB, while AT shows them how to be pros.

That year broke the last of my football soul..... I believed they could at least challenge for the super sorry NFC south.... so that 2024 first would be in the 20s and not as valuable as having a playoff team. I loved 95% of the coaching hires and I never care for most(I was 100% about rhule tho..) Such a let down and that team/year. It worst than the 1-15 season and expansion 95 Clemson year. My dumbass thought the odds were nicely in the Panthers favor, Im getting sick again.....

11 - Nic Scourton 22 - Lathan Ransom 33 - Princely Umanmielen 44 - GOAT 55 - Cam Jackson

20 years God could not get an NFL rule changed, now they are rule change addicts. This is just like paying the college players, it went from one extreme side to the other. Stop and find the middle ground.

Im not firm on many things football, but this statement or belief or strategy I am 100% for. Full Offseason the goal is to make the playoffs. Week 1, 1000% I want to win. Weeks 2-10, 1000% I want to win. Until the math stats 0.000000000% chance at NO playoffs, I want to win. *Once* there's no chance at the playoffs, I want to 100% lose every game until the end. You are still loser at 2-15 or 5-12, I want to never lose like this again. I want the best value for losing and suffering. Again the only goal is playoffs. Once in the playoffs anything can happen, I want to win the whole dam show. If you happen to lose in the first round, that's perfectly fine and lets work hard this upcoming off-season to get another chance to make them. This is the ONLY way to play in the NFL. Anyone not understanding this method of strategy, please call your doctor for a visit...

Purdy saved the 49ers from that three 1st picks for Trey Lance. People forget that. People also forget he should have MVP votes for the 23 season. He's been any where from the 8th(his best/23) to 14th ranked QB, he's legit and guys around top 10 get paid as QBs.....guys in 28th get paid too, he's 4x the QB Trevor Lawrence is and better than BY by miles as well...even without CMC, Samuel(whos a RB playing WE), and half the OL. *BUT* You non-believers missed this ultra important mistake that honestly made me reconsider all the praise I gave him. https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/49ers-qb-brock-purdy-throws-blind-40-percent That's is damming to my case and reset my thinking of his. That's nuclear scary now and I need some time. too honest for me to overlook.

Thanks for the chuckle!!

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Anyone that believes getting a couple late season wins to end the season at 4-13 while picking 9th in each round, other than 2-15 with the 1st pick in each round is not being realistic. It happens nearly every other year, Jags gave the browns a insane package to move from 2nd to 5th. If not for late season pointless/everyone forgets late season wins the Panthers would have gotten that franchise changing package. Not to mention Panthers would have had Herbo and Sewell in other years, but nope. Do I need to bring up da bears??? The goal is long term winning in order to make the playoffs, one season to tank could spark it with a Burrow that's gets sacked 60 times on the way to a SB. I want to win as bad as anyone, but the second the Panthers are eliminated from playoff contention, the ONLY solution is to lose the remaining games to gain a better chance to never do that again. No other answer.

If Cam and Luke were truly these HOF game changer that we all believe, their influence should have lead to wins, including b2b. I feel us fans overrated their abilities. Watched some of the Luke coming call 70% of plays before they happened, most of his team mates didn't listen to answer. There was nearly no reaction to his call out, it was bizarre. That seemed to be the main problem. No clue why this never got addressed. Gross and Smitty were here in late stage, each were able to bring good positive play level in their 30s. Cam had the best IOL for around 2.5 years and 2 legit studs at RBs. Lafell was alright for a #2 as well. DL during this time was top tier- Star, KK, Hardy, Johnson.. The D finished in the top 5, I believe two different times and others it no lower than 8th. I just remembered Oher was here for good LT play for what 1.5 seasons, too. Luke and Cam should have better results.

He's the true alpha!

what about the retiree Aaron donald?? Just to keep up with my "what about this" Garrett is 4-3 right, Parsons would a monster OLB end if heathly..... TJ watt should get votes too, he's got numbers with anyone..

I know Cam gets lots of " why didn't you deliver back-2-back winning seasons ", Luke deserves the same HEAT. only RR and his crew of clown coaches(minus DL wash and DC mcderp) could be gifted those rosters and not break the curse...

NFL needs more of these stories. Sad the drama get all the clicks. I want to hear more Warwick Dunn stories, most players should follow his lead. TD does lots for the local kids, I wish that made the headlines.

Be great if can repeat those numbers and be a returner here. Panthers are going to have a problem that other teams have, there's only one ball.... All the 1st rounder WRs/others, TEs, and the 3 deep RB room..... I swear targets will be slim pickings weekly. I like horn lots more after watching his routes, plus he's got the missing piece to the rec group- deep speed. Fact is he was the 208th pick in a weak draft, he was already on notice. I think he will be a team player this season and stick on the 53 with week of inactives mixed in with some 3recs 40 yards games. Like the rock says "Know your role", I believe horn does and will happily wait his turn and do what's needed on ST. I feel etienne will win the main returner role, but horn should put up a good fight until the roster is set. He feels like a Doug Baldwin the Panthers version. But don't mind me, I am huffin the panther fumes and horn is one of my main targets to get high... I had to, cause I have no UDFA to champion this year.

Brehs, I don't know Mahomes is the clear answer if Andy Reid doesn't come with him....

Thanks Carolinalivin, one stop "fix" for my Panthers habit!!