Basbear

Best I member, kalil started at OG and for a couple games and was Zavala bad..... Then hartwig got a concussion or something and kalil moved to C?? Kalil was a born center and could not play any other NFL spot. They cut hartwig the next year after signing him to a big (at the time) contract. It was a huge shock to Marty and crew that kalil was still there in the 2nd. Him and moose are about the only 2nd rounders that became ring of honor level players. They traded their 1st(revis) for beason(25th) and kalil 46(??).... nice deal for both, but I think jets "won" more. Hence a great example of true BPA and things still work out. There's so much turn over in the NFL, its been proven over and over that BPA is the best method to building a winner. But rarely any teams follow it, when many speak about it. FYI morgan was the MLB when beason was drafted....

last one, hard to follow those top three.

BPA is a case by case deal for me. Just say you already have a stud young RB under many years contract on the roster, but your BPA is a RB. Say you rate the draftee RB 87, * but there's a CB with a 85 rating also there. Bonus you have two open spots at CB. At this point I believe you should draft the CB and not the BPA RB. BPA can be said as BPA in terms of need/want. *But you could tell yourself injuries happen and it was the former GM who gave that RB a healthy contract, thus in turn draft the BPA RB....... Im a huge value nut that also a part of the complex formula. Also Im firm believer in the longer the draft goes, the higher value needs to switch to "upside". Cause looking at nearly all teams draft hauls, most times only 1-2 guys remain on the team out of the 7 or so picks. Plus I know starting in rounds 5(mid)-7 the success rates favors the IOL and DBs. Id follow that myself too. Plus where you are drafting makes a big deal as well, cause if you have a great team, maybe using the 29th overall pick on a OG makes more sense than the team drafting 2nd and needs everything.

My only reason for not being in total football depression is if herbo was a panther, so would herniay to this day.....

He's a funny looking fellow, his hair is off too...

I looked into this some, Robinson never played NT by my findings. I've been asking what the line looks like given there's three guys in the 330 range and clowney played DE too(at least he did for Texans). SO I know they rotate heavy, but egos are egos about who's starting. I wanted sweat in the 3rd for a true NT until he screwed up, but Id still draft him in the 4th now... Just like with center, panthers don't have a NT on the roster...Tuttle is just acting as one.

Im surprised that sanders and Tuttle didn't join the mass exodus of 23 FA class Hurst, bell, boz....

I mean da bears have it next year and the best time to gain it back is during the draft. Im a sucker soo long as it comes with a massive overpay. Id nearly never trade up, much prefer to add darts than lose them...

jeremy scott, came in with rhule....not a fan. But they team got high praise in that players poll, I believe the strength staff was rated in the top 5. They sure play weak, minus brown...

I liked him much more in 2022. Still no other player is getting picked apart like Drake. Honestly I'm starting to see a little of the issues, but I still got him firmly as a top ten pick.

fanspeak trying to test the limits with odunze falling.......

My god if only you had a early-ish pick on CB, it still a great haul even with sweats dwi deal. If Morgan copy's this, A+!!

If you want something, it's easier to believe...

That was what I referring to when I stated "lost overall talent, gained better "fit"". Nearly all the defense guys had either been with a current coach or played in the version of everos system. Not taking the hopuim this year tho. Plus I still think evero should have been the HC.

Did you let the TSA microwave you?

Most of those are LTs, I just never been a huge moton supporter. I view him as the 10-16th best RT, but he's never missed any games that I can recall and very solid though out his career. Plus he never could make the switch to LT. I've never been in his corner, but glad for him locking down the RT spot(just believe it should be at 13th RT rate, but far more pressing issues...) Honestly this draft maybe the right time to draft his replacement, if not for the many other needs/holes/wants. Maybe Ricky Lee can pull it off, they carried him on the roster for a reason. Looking at numbers, it does seem could be "set". Chirst is another player to think about too.

my non-trade draft, big let down about where I picked edge, but you cannot reach. Not that big on trotter either(is he a two down LB?), but I do think LB is a big need/want(it's one year shaq, Jewell, and NOTHING). Didn't like the RB pick much either, but BPA and 2025 matter....hate to carry 4 RBs. Ill do one more a couple days before and that's all folks!

It seems Brandt Tilis has stopped the insane restructuring for a 5 win team. I haven't looked but I think Moton is the 8th highest non-QB cap hit in the whole NFL, gooooo panthers!!!! I think he should take a pay cut.......but that's tilis job now..

I honestly think Morgan will target CB and C with the 33 and 39. That's plan A and there are plans B-G to follow. But he's he needs to firm BPA.

Heres a recent link about legette and coleman, panthers seem to be tore according to a ESPN "expert". https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2024/04/08/panthers-draft-targets-wide-receiver-xavier-legette-keon-coleman/ Refresh after the lame AdBlock. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-132-all-about-the-wide-receivers/id1552317359?i=1000651514299 Hour+ panthers draft podcast where the quotes came from. grain of salt and all, cause I got no clue about Jordan Reid's rep.

That 3rd rounder (65) should have a starter level WR there as well. Im off the 33 or 39 "must" be a WR, just too many holes. I've done enough mocks and research to know C and edge both fall off hardcore after 39th, while it seems WR last until mid-4th. This will take a couple more draft pools to fix the talent issues.

He is one of those that could be a 1st or in the 4th round. Draft lore has rules, one is all it takes is one team to fall in love. I feel the Panthers could do better with the 33 and 39. CB, C, LB, edge, TE, and even DL will still have plenty to offer and panthers need help everywhere. It looking like the 4th will have a starting level player sitting there too, I hope Morgan is ready.....

Not saying I want this, but going off of this it seems waiting until the 3rd-4th is the better move. I thought more WR would have gotten 1st round grades, plus I still fill worthy will go in the 1st.

I couldn't turn it down and knew it was more time waste than doing doing the draft itself... Each time looking at the board it was still full of talent at cost the of moving down 1, 3, or 14 spots. Able to get a early start on 2025 plus brooks at 69 is insane...I badly wanted to use 65, but position value and need slap me around. got 3 2025 picks too! fairy tales that I normally avoid. I will do another non-trade one before the real one.