Basbear

My "WTF" is its been 30 years as a team, during which they've had many good-great RBs and 7,000 is the tops??? NFL is just 100x harder than most think. I'd figure someone would have 10,000+, especially looking at the names. They tried to replace Huddard two different times as well- sanders contract and drafting brooks. Both blew up in their face and to save face, resign the standard Hubbard.

This is me as well. Pour resources into the lines, draft, cash, and staff. I would also say it makes it easier to win, but great coaching can scheme up lesser lines.

Why Ramsey? Is Horn already hurt or something?? Hes talking about the FSU kicker missing everything, is my guess.

I was taught by my role models, never give whores coke. Never. This pink stuff is what Diddy made famous years ago and I'm sure it will get released during his case. Best I know in the current 2025, you are insane/playing with death taking any of coke, pink coke, or any designer drug. You 100% must use a drug testing method. Or watch someone do half the bag in front of you. Fent ruined the fun. Glad I never developed addiction on dragons or white lady..... Im one of those rare weirdos that just doesn't have a addictive personality. Few times Ive gone from 2 fifths a day, stop the day after for years. But Ive never tired unnatural hardcore drugs. For some reason of fate, I always seemed to be projected from using it. Now Im too old for all that poo and the drug game is at the worst point in some time. Plus I come to realize weed is boring, hate away but its the truth. I had one guy that I trusted to get drugs, too smart for what he was. He told me three drugs I should never try are 70% and up meth, tren, and crack. He used a chemist until........ and said that pure meth was like nothing else and no side effects minus staying up if you took too much. Said the 92% pure meth was the worst(cause it was the best and nothing compared), then tren was terrible sleep/health problems/insane rage/ it just fugs with your thinking and mind patterns. Crack was one time when he was young and dumb, never did it again. Great guy, I was too lucky to have him around.

I always thought about asking players about that years draftable rookies. I would take the good/great stuff very lightly. But the bad or cancer stuff, that's going in the file.... If some current player tells me another player from their school is lazy and always in trouble, get that confirmed and lose that players name. Like for rumor too, lots of times they are fake these days. If a player has first hand information, why not listen?? I get they can overrate their friends and school, but there's more to it than "he's cool". Maybe the guy played hurt the whole season and didn't let no one know but his close friends. I'd also hire some top recruiter every 2-3 years to stay up to date on information as well.

I was never a 90s member, but I did read them in the 2000s. I was a member on "the herald'(sp?) and Darin Gantts papers website(was that the herald?? geez..). Steve Reed was a good reporter on both hornets and Panthers, I forget that website/paper. I just remember the panthers.com was 4 day joke with old information and they at one point had a forum too, it didn't last and was a total mess. I know when the observer shut down comments, many came here. I was on scout.com and that too shut down, but it got over modded and I got banned(??) posting a Dave Chappelle KKK skit. Mods thought it was the real thing never cared to watch it. I was bouncing around and always knew of this place, honestly I didn't like how it had too many members...weirdo. Still at that point Panthers.com was joke, they would post release players from days ago and nothing worth reading or watching (minus pressers). Then Bill voth changed the site and updated it to be fresh along with that best SM Force. They understood modern digital era and years passed and now its the best website for all things Panthers. They even break news there now too, unheard of years ago. Here at the huddle used to have the most freedom(what happen??), that's why I planted myself here. I enjoyed Zobs TC notes, pictures, and insight. Now people are on x, bragbook, or intrasface.

Brother give a whirl or two, its a got a real cult following. It took me some weekend time to find it, some people find it beyond funny. There's other videos you can pick from and lore ones too. Its vastly different and your xfile game made me recall that "art" piece. Even better you can give it a play though yourself. I found it entertaining in a goofball off cast way.

It's coming soon according to DG. If you want to read about it, check out his ask a old guy segment at Panthers website. Honestly the one of the best ways to stay up to date on Panthers news, is going to Panthers.com..... times have changed..

Brother, Id call his ability to get open a gift. Cutting or changing direction while at NFL speed while the CB is completely out of the play....In my book that's a gift. Its mentally or physically labeled as well. Those professional CB that watch film know to respect prime Renfrow. Did you see what derwin james said about him? Check it out I think the lead up was list the best WRs in the game, James is madd underrated and elite said Renfrow was that guy. Now is that guy on the Panthers? I don't believe so, need to see proof.

I read this as the Panthers found a loophole. Panthers guarantee 150,000-300,000 to 12 UFDAs. Simple terms- that's their new PS, imo. PS members make between 225,000-380,000 yearly. If they cut them and another team claims them, they take on the contract too, but that's as 53 rostered player. I love aggression used. The player pool is still in a odd state with NIL and coofus. There's lots of 23 and 24 year old players now. I think the only way this hurts the Panthers if the player is cut and goes unclaimed. Then the player signs with a different teams PS, but I believe there maybe an offset in salary. Maybe @Toomers can fill in with some input.

Right now all players count against the cap, everyone including IR, PUP, etc. Week 1 only the top 51 contracts count. Best I know.

2021 Renfrows ability to cut/change direction on the run was godlike.

I found what I was talking about, have you seen/played this gem- It reminded me of that xfiles game, but this one is uhhh different.... keep pounding!!

I guess this means more 3 WR sets. I echo the ???? about resigning a meh TE that needs back surgery....... He is only 24, but .... Maybe they will keep 7 WRs now....

Brother, I don't have a clue about what to watch, Ive been victim to too many "reality TV" scams. Bear Grylls was the last straw for me.... wait a second I did watch early pawn stars for about 6 full seasons. That slop 90 Day Fiance, Temptation Island, and marriage at first sight shows should be banned. Total trash that get insane ratings. The last series I watched with GREAT joy and excitement was the first Dexter series on showtime. They do not make any TV movie slop for me in the last 20 or so years. New Dexter was a complete joke. Besides having one gem hidden each year, example I liked dune..... but Im a Syfy junkie. Hell recently Im on the wine mom schedule with murder shows Forensic Files, dateline, any murder shows copies. My TV/movies knowledge is 20 years ago when history channel had Modern Marvels, MTV played music videos, and BET had Comic View. My gods do I miss those days... Plus Im on a terrible Habit with YouTube shorts, I need to do better...... Sucks being a old soul in this era.

Not college, but I got plenty of trophies. I worked after school and during college. I stayed in gyms and living conditions with athletes and been in small areas with some of the strongest humans alive. In two over-sea tours working as a contractor, I worked in three man teams and most times by myself during the job. Won go-cart championships with only one other as well. I guess that's me to a T, Im either solo or in a 2-3 man unit. You need to look at this from a different angle than players. Owner, GM, coaches would GREATLY benefit, that statement of yours is 100% false. Plenty of drafts show the difference in value between 1st overall and 9th or recently 2nd and 5th or 3rd and 12th. You can research it and see, but I think you know. You are a loser at 2-13, 3-13, and 4-13... No fake fluff late season wins change that. Those "vets" by seasons end are banged and bruised and sprained up, besides they have already lost. Start the next year team plan now, try new plays or calls. Or keep playing those "vets" who lead the 1 win by week 15, makes no difference. The goal is never be in that position, you use your brain and look at the big picture and not feelings, do the smartest and correct plan to your future path.

Easy to talk trash, but put most in his shoes, Id be acting a fool too......that's the deal with FU money/power/fame....

I watched each year until I dropped my NFL fandom. The jets year was great it gave many classic Rex lines. The epic response that Antonio Cromartie gave trying to name all his kids. Gruden was great too, both at TB and LA. I enjoied the Texans and Vincet Wilford shenanigans. I did not know I ultra hard-ass like Bill O'Brian came home to a disability child and showed a totally different side of his persona. Then I think teams took control of what gets released and I lost joy in FF&NFL in general, thus lame like 98% of the slop they release now...... Plus there's like what 5 or 6 other teams that have shows with similar content as hard knocks across all platforms. Id rather watch re-runs of married with children...... All the rookies shows are great most times. I still remember ravens being the first and Tony Siragusa bustin Shannon Sharpe balls. I liked the insight to coaches, Brian Billick was a genius .......who could not find a QB despite being a QB guru. I haven't watch in years tho... I miss the old times.....

You don't tank week 1-10, only when the maths states you are out. At that point you have a losing season. In order to ensure that never happens again, you want the best value/odds to achieve the goal. That can come in trade value package or elite players via the 1st pick in each round. The worst thing that can happen is drafting 16-19th due to wins that you, I, and fans will never recall in future years....But I bet you remember those old playoff runs, right brother!!!! Keep Pounding! Keep Smart!!

I hope the Panthers are NEVER on that show.

It was an awful go for all the rumor mill people, myself included. It seems the more I watched and read, the less was right. Plus no one on earth had Sanders in the 5th. No one had him to the browns after they spent a 3rd on QB, not one soul. The old saying was miss-information is in full effect until 1-2 weeks from the first draft day, this year it never stopped and barely any truth nuggets happened. Even the Panthers after 10 years of leaks, fooled 98% of fans, insiders, and podcasters. This Im happy about, great job for Brandt/Dan and the whole staff. BTW- Morgan must be one of the highest trade/movers come draft time. He must lead the league in not using the original pick. We will see if that pays off too.

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Im with you frend!! I've been Pro- purdy for years and gone rounds with @LinvilleGorge on it...BTW he is the matt rhule of QB opinions, love you LG!! *BUT* if you read that link I post.......Purdy himself stated he throws to a spot 40% of the time, that is self-incriminating damaging evidence.... I still need to think about it, I do not believe if I agree with my pre-40% blind throws self. I had him as the 8th-11th best QB, now I don't know...