Basbear

That is the question Ive been figuring out to answer for weeks. My first answer was - I believe the LT run would start at 8. A team that wants the top OLmen, Panthers would be the team to dealt with. There's like 3 OLmen that could be draft here. Banks, Campbell, membou. Ashton Jeanty is the other. If he falls to 8th, it could force some team to jump up for. Sanders could fall until 8 and QB always bring a steep price. That's five names.

You called a couple of the them too, I looked forward to your prediction!!

I don't like it from the fact you can cause permit damage. I mean if we are Superbowl, then pop pills or inject the good stuff or whatever to play. Playing hurt is a big part of ball, I just felt two weeks and a young healer would be fine. He could have improved his numbers rather than hurt his draft stock. This is after the fact, unfair to mykel. My father sprained his ankle to the point that duke doctors wanted to perform surgery. Last minute they tired to case his foot in stead and see if that would prevent having extreme surgery. He got home and couple days pasted, called up his father in law HS football coach. He told my pops to cut off that case and dip his foot into the coldest water he could stand for 20 minutes followed by the hottest 20 minutes. Repeat 5 times. He did and was finally able to put weight on his foot afterwards. It finally got better and started to heal.

Agree. This is just the David Moore of defense. He knows the system and his role. Willing to play 4 phase STs. Able to spot stater in dire times. Most important- cheap.

At the beginning of draft research, I saw plenty of comments that Tmac was slow etc and not a yac guy. I watch him run away from DBs and get plenty of yac. I feel the key these anti-Tmac people are missing is QB play. That zona QB is awful and the reason for most of the 50/50 balls, Tmac would be open and wait for the broken duck pass to reach allowing the CB/DB to close. He still won. Im no warren fan, but just like him, Tmac was 100% of the show, the focus was stopping him.....it didn't work. Draft him Brandt/Dan!!

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44024373/nfl-draft-prospect-mykel-williams-was-injured-whole-year-georgia According to Williams, he played the whole 2024 with a bad ankle. He said "I played at less than 60%". I wonder if his ankle is permittly damaged then..... I don't get why a top ten guy wouldn't take a couple weeks off to heal fully. They had plenty of elite players to win without.... odd.

I wasn't the biggest fan either, I just didnt like he was fitttererererers right hand in making the worse panther roster in history. I swear the 1995 team would beat them, easy. I do believe him when he says, he wants players that are all ball, that's their main focus. Many say that, but I believe Dan truly believes it. If you are not about NFL football, he will get rid of you fast. Ill say this too. Marty Herniay and Dave Guttlegut(almost with oher, but...) spend years trying and failing to "fix" the OL *with depth. Dan Morgan did that in one year. Sure he spent 163million on OGs and I disagreed, but it was worth it for one year. He got a HUGE mess on his hands, just the lack of talent is mind boggling. It takes time, years to fix the amount of problems. He's fixed the OL with deep depth, found a young HC with upside, attacked fixing a weak DL. I know this, he is trying and getting some positive results. Draft is super important like most years, he's got to nail that 8th pick...... its a long way to 57th. Trade, pass catcher, a difference maker is of great need. It matters big time the result from that pick.

Not to poop on this, but I do not see him as a 3-4 fit. I mean hybrid DL and he's a freak. Freaks are easy to fit, but he's too small for end this year and he's never covered TEs, WRs, or RBs on passing routes so OLB is a long path. There's always pure 4-3 guys and pure 3-4 guys. Same for pure zone CBs. I think Williams is gifted and tough, but he's a pure 4-3 guy.

@Bear Hands I think this is first year, maybe since 2014, I feel no one knows the pick. Shaq(2015?) was called by Zob, I remember it clear. Each year since someone called the pick couple weeks before. Still time to past until the the real news is leaked, but right now no one has the Panthers pick correct.

I think you're on the right path. We only have one draft to go on with Dan,Brandt, and Dave. If you focus on that, it was showing they drafted for 2 years into the future. Like you said, football stuff happened with brooks re-injuring his knee. The Wallace and Sanders picks look better today than they did draft day. Even part of XL could be a 2025 reason. You never want to rely on rookies to start for you especially at QB, CB, DL, LT..... I've looked over the roster, roughly its 19 on offense and 19 on defense with 2 STer By my numbers, guessing, think like Dan, history, etc etc. They need 2-3 WRs 2- TEs 1- returner that's either RB or WR *But like you listed future needs will be RT and C ___________________________________________________________ 2- edges/OLB/ends 1- DLmen 2- Safety 1-2 MLBs *No true future issue, its the same right now.. 1- Kicker rough numbers= 25 offense + 25 defense + 3 STers = your 53 roster. I think you could lean on PS for some insurance about 2026 problems. Raym could be the backup C in 2026(they gave him big UDFA money and he stay on the roster for half year and PS the other) Brandon Walton could be a super sleeper pick to replace Motown. He followed the staff from TB and stayied the whole PS yeat. The coaches must like him enough Dominique Dafney comes from the best TE coach in college, he could serve this year as #4 TE and maybe #3 in 2026.

This is game changing- New Orleans Saints 2017 Draft Picks: Round 1, Pick 11 - Marshon Lattimore, DB, Ohio State Round 1, Pick 32 - Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin Round 2, Pick 42 - Marcus Williams, DB, Utah Round 3, Pick 67 - Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee Round 3, Pick 76 - Alex Anzalone, LB, Florida Round 3, Pick 103 - Trey Hendrickson, DE, Florida Atlantic Round 6, Pick 196 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, DE, Miami

They never had one, that just shows how hard they come by. This one is close just not the total kockout, but elite talent is there. Round (Pick No.) Name College Years with Carolina 1 (11) LB Dan Morgan Miami (Fla.) 2001-07 2 (44) DT Kris Jenkins Maryland 2001-07 3 (74) WR Steve Smith Utah 2001-13 4 (106) QB Chris Weinke Florida State 2001-06 5 (143) S Jarrod Cooper Kansas State 2001-04 6 (175) RB Dee Brown Syracuse 2001-02 7 (211) C Louis Williams LSU 2001-02 7 (227) TE Mike Roberg Idaho Weinke was a OK backup and Cooper was a ST demon. Just need a couple more to at least make the team for years. Still ranked great and best Id say in Panthers history.

Just no matter how you do(within reason), if you get 2 top level starters and 1 top backup/STer. It's a good draft. Anyone that disagrees, pick a team that you hold in high draft regard. And look at the draft history, what I said remains true. There are course changing drafts, were you hit on 6 out of the eight picks and your team changes for the good. Seahawks, saints, rams have had them and the effects last years...

Great point. I agree, by the time Rhule was kicked out- Teddy, Stafford, Darnold, Baker, no telling else. Tepper demanded fittterererererer make that trade up for the top pick for BY. He ruined the plan, but he 100% owns the team. 2021 draft also netted a 2022 4th via titans too(I think).

Im still not functioning. I do want hands touching proof. Just .... it changes .....idk...

2017 is better, but not for Panthers given the CMC trade.

Chiefs tagged Trey Smith. I was here in the huddle for most of the draft- I started calling for his name in the 4th HARDCORE even with the reports. Just about every huddlers was calling for him picks after, yelling in the 6th.

Only path for that is draft or trade. I don't feel there are over 5-6 and maybe one of realm type surprise starter in the draft. WRs do get traded the most. I've maintained for months Panthers need a legit starting pass catcher. I feel they must use either the 1st or 2nd rounder to get it. Just not many legit offense passing weapons in this draft. They all could be gone by pick 57 too, Dan may have to trade up which I don't want..... *Bonus* Look if BY became 2nd career half Tom Brady, you don't need elite WRs. That was the whole plan in drafting him....he was the PG game changer and he would allow the team to save money. I doubt he can reach that level, but what do I know... I just seen pyramids are sitting on 8 giant 2km wells and those are on two selfs, my brain is hurting currently. Game changing if true-

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Round 1, pick 8 - Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina Round 2, pick 59 (from CLE) - Terrace Marshall Jr., WR, LSU Round 3, pick 70 (from PHI) - Brady Christensen, OT, BYU Round 3, pick 83rd Tommy Tremble, TE, Notre Dame Round 4: No. 126 (from TEN) - Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State Round 5: No. 158 (from From NE through HOU) - Daviyon Nixon, DT, Iowa Round 5: No. 166 (from TEN) - Keith Taylor, CB, Washington Round 6, pick 193 - Deonte Brown, OG, Alabama Round 6, pick 204 (from CHI) - Shi Smith, WR, South Carolina Round 6, pick 222 - Thomas Fletcher, LS, Alabama Round 7: No. 232 - Phil Hoskins, DT, Kentucky Facts are if you get 2 quality starters- Horn and Hubbard. And one top backup/STer- Tommy Tremble *Bonus - Brady Christensen That's a good draft. You get four legit NFL players from any draft its a good draft. Plus those four resigned with the team making it a rare feat as well. Sorry it does not fit the hate on fittteererererererer narrative... That's the goal each year.

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It just depends on what information these team believe. He was a former wrestler, they are know for using gas..... Dropping 25-35 LBs is sus no matter. The kicker was Michigan recorded his weight weekly and it was around 320-330 per coaches on the staff. Ankle injury or whatever, he still shouldn't lost that much that soon. You still lift and rehab and hell, players gain weight as well. It's something that needs more time and the truth will reveal. Hes not the first to gas it up while in college.

I don't have a Twatter or X account, never have. they don't share replies and current posts since the change years ago. Honestly it one of my main reason for coming here, Juan, ice, Frank, carlivin, Scott, etc would post the link that they thought are worth sharing. That X place was a true cesspool and bots glare, its gotten alittle better, still not enough for me to make a account. Hold on, I did make account to attempt contract brain surgeons cause my father had surgery. Didnt lookup nothing else.

He's also has some return abilities too. I don't think he should be the top guy, but he's decent insurance.

Much better!