Basbear

Bro I used 15 versions of "should", Im out the farthest out on the branch without fully putting on the homer glasses. I too did not care for Elf or Erving, both have put out AWFUL tape for the last three years(same for ginger cringer...). So I am in wait see mode, cause my current report would not be a nice one. My 4 out of 5 statement did not include either Elf or Erving(not for LT) btw, I have both on the bench for 2021..... You have every right to be skeptical, but I can not give the hope stamp like last year. My hope is Rhule and Pat can pull off a miracle or two.... Live game snaps in preseason games, before I make a prediction. Plus fyi dont put too much stock into Brown looking bad in 1 on 1 drills, a OG always has someone to their right and left.....those drills always make C/OGs look bad. OL play as 1, not 1 vs 1 too. I can give you some hope for Brown @stbugs included. If you havnt seen Brown pulling or showing max effort check this out- https://twitter.com/colecubelic/status/1060295663194390528 Could be Im high on hopium, but I believe both Moore and Brown will be focused on proving the doubters wrong. My main hopes for each is in 2022 tho, but that happen sooner.

I too was screaming for Smith, especially late rounds. I do understand if your 3 doctors all come up with the same conclusion- Pass. I did read up some about him, seems he did not practice with teammates much at all during the week. He was on blood liners most of his career and that does make injuries more risky. One concussion and your career could be over, G little had about 3 in a short time frame. He is going to get injured, blood flow is the key to healing. He is going to need to constant monitoring and one simple injury hes in danger. I know Bill Billcheat cut my guy Kevin Love cause he had diabetes. Love attacked it and got it under control and had a solid NFL after leaving them. Here is another tidbit about me- in the 7th I wanted a LB, bad. I didnt research much of the players after top 80 or so. But I did lots of mocks and one familiar name was still available. Jonathan Cooper was one of those LB/DE Reddick like players, team captain at OSU and put out great tape/stats. DRAFT HIM FINSEESER YOU COWARD!!! Turns out he has a heart issue and he going to miss some time(rookie camp otas etc).

Blowboys have a team of helpers for all their players.

Kungfu I believe you thought the 2020 OL was going to be ranked in the 30s, I predicted they would be mid-pack(alone as a remember).....and for the most part they did. Im not ready to make any sort claim with this current group, maybe after preseason games. Still the right side should be fine, as long as Moton is healthy. LG should be filled form big pool of able players. LT is where my HUGE questions are, still they *should be able to field 4 out 5 with at least average NFL players. That one is the big one tho. For me its TBD, need to see live game and real reports. St I can not disagree with adding Smith over a Long Safety....... as Ive said using draft picks on any STers is against my religion. If Im not ready to call 2021, no chance Im ready to call 2022. Moton seems to be the key, honestly to both seasons. Just the reports are he wants top LT money, thats a hard pass for me. Tag him again for a bargain and either play it out or trade him. 20+ million for ANY non-QB is a hard check to sign for me. Be like Dbrown wanting top DE money, tag and wait it out another year.....see if the agent comes down to earth... Far as the 3 OLmen form the draft, I really reallly like the OGs Brown and Moore. This year maybe a red-shirt for both or one maybe starting mid-season. Could be the 2022 starters, just how well they adapt to Rhule/NFL/defenders. Both are strong and I do believe each will be out to prove a point. Christensen is unknown to me, dont hate him or have a solid opinion. I do have far more questions about him- he was 24 years, 4 years older than Sewell and most of his competition. 19 years old vs 24 there is a huge gap in everything, you should be dominating. My other big issue is his level of competition, I do not think any of the players he blocked(maybe one) will be drafted to in the NFL. He was never tested at all, well that is about to change and how he reacts to getting beat like a drum will determine if hes able to be a Wharton or Little type of player. Personally dont see him able to fill the LT spot, better fit as a OG(sight chance at RT), but he could prove that wrong....

I hope they are right! I had him right with McNeil(mid 4th ish), which was why I got a little nervy when it was becoming obvious he was going in the 3rd. Honestly I was for Nixon with the 4th pick, I had no idea about RBs since I only focus on panther needs(which means I was wrong about that). I just thought RB wasnt a need and FA market is flooded with decent players (UDFA too). Panthers have too many needs, but finesser added 4 picks so no issue with using a mid-late rounder on RB. Nixon....o my he could have a KK impact, just got to hear how he does in the weight room. While KK looked like a melted snowman, all reports I heard were he one of the strongest panthers. Plus now theres no need to resign KK, but Im trying to stay grounded about most of this draft class. Ive already blew my "homer overrating" load on Brown and Moore. Nixon is right there too along with Marshall & Smith. At one point bleacher report had him going 12th overall and many had him as a late 1st. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2021/daviyon-nixon

Can he play LT??

I swear, I am going to do another bet with posters that feel the safety are trash. I was right about last years OL being better than everyone thought. Just got to figure out how its judged. Not referring to anyone, just as a whole. My main need/want heading into 2022 is LT. Honestly thats about it, as far as the highest want/need. OL in general, but I think OGs could be found and they maybe already on the team(Brown&Moore). Elf I feel will be the 2022 C, how he does....well Im not going to say either way right now. Christensen is the wild card, could play a big role this year or next or be a RT or LG or RG or LT in either year. I know the players he put up high ranks against will NOT be playing NFL ball, they will be driving trucks or bouncing at bars come 2022. LBs, but again I do not know what Phil Snow will showcase. DL&CB have had draft capital spent there, no worries, just need time to grow. WR got young talent too, 4 is a big number too. TE has a young guy and a specialist, but how much effect does this group need with WRs and CMC? QB will go right to the top if Darnold fails, I am taking a wait before I make claims. Its almost scaring when I think about my confront level about the current and future roster. Have I been finessed by the finesser??

I did not, honestly my only two sure bets where Barmore and Onwuzurike. After them was a massive drop, imo. No 1st rounders, I was about 50/50 on, but had to be late 20s at best. Just hated the whole class overall talent and didnt feel the value was right til the 5th/late 4th. I didnt like the fresh report for McNeil, felt like he was going about where he did(mid-3rd). Like a few of the DTs, I thought Nixon had a decent spot at being a 3-4 end, which brings me to..... Besides it didnt matter if Nixon was drafted before round 4th. That would still give me the win! Milton Williams is a DE, philly still runs a 3-4 far as I know. No chance a 275 guy is a NT/DT in that system unless ADonald wants to play NT. Hence why he was announced DE and the graphic had DE in his profile.

Right at this time, Im planning on tagging Moton for a 2nd time. 20+million for any non-LT OLman, fug that. At the end of the 2nd tag he would be 30, dont want 20+ million tied up in that. Tag and trade is another option, Javis Landry had that happen. Honestly the only spot where I had huge concerns is LT. I believe someone will step up and win LG role. Not going to start pulling a stbugs about sewell to the lions, just wished they would have gave the panthers the option to pick Sewell. Future does look decent with the guys form this draft, moore could fill a role in 2022. Elf and Evring while playing like poop, maybe the Rhule and crew can work a miracle. But I want the same thing I wanted in 2021 in 2022 draft- 3 OLmen, 2 of which need to be OTs.

They do that to players, not to agents. Most agents have been around for 10-20 years, tell them a few lies and you go on their poo list. Agents have more than a few people helping them or employed. Agents have more freedom than team employees too. It happens, trust me. Honestly the best relationship you want in the league is be on great terms with drew rosenhaus. If a team tells him a bunch of lies, he could blacklist his clients form signing with them. Agents many times are the "unnamed source" btw..

Someone told a non-panther front office person- " Mickey and Payton LOVE Marshall and are targeting him with their 2nd round pick". That person believes it and calls a panther personal and tells them the news. Can happened with agents, "Saints guaranteed me Marshall will be the 60th pick ". Ten years of build up trust and relationship can be invaluable. Now it works both ways, that panthers person must give information that their team could value. Saints person *could be a source, I mean 5k-10k could buy a few rumors with some proof. Tho its faaar more likely the story above with a agent/former employee.

Mid-5th, I 100% agree with the risk. Why not go for it all starting in the 5th-7th, what you miss out a 4 year *maybe core special teamer??? fug that thinking, go for a starter that may have a couple red flags. Yea soo what he acts young, so what he likes the weed, so what hes a free lancer, figure it out!! Reach the young lad and make sure he aware thats your main goal is helping him to become a professional NFLer. If its doesnt work, you only lost 5th-7th round value. No big deal.

He does have one big ass head.

Darin Gantt has been killin it with piece after piece, soooo glad hes back. Look, Im value type guy, to a fault. Just to add Gettleman made trades up, mainly cause 10 rookies where NOT making those 2014-2017 rosters. Those teams had no space, it was a hotel with no vacancy. It was smart for him to focus a couple players that the staff/coaches truly loved. This current 2020 team need about 25 players......I will tell you what Finesser got about 21 between the draft, FA, and one UDFA. Finesser did what Herinay and Hogfather had no knowledge of, embrace the rebuild. Tho GMan traded back with Bears and another one later, so old dawgs can learn new tricks. BTW heard the whole war room was PISSED about losing Silm Reaper and Dave shocking admitted Jamin Davis was there pick if he didnt go to WFT one before 20 Toney. Wish Scott was here day one with Rhule, I bet the vision of the team would have been two years ahead and be challenging for a 2021 wild-card. Glad Tepper learned.

Not bad, right now my go-to is the ginger cringer. I got to see him play in a panther colors before I know which nick-name to roll with.

Not to mention Tepper too. It seems they are looking for forward thinking high IQ person thats not scare to dis-agree with them. Morgan does feel like Finesser is hiring one of frat boys as a favor. Honestly I forgot the guys name and this is 'old" thinking, Ryan Cowden(had to cheat) is another one I thought always had a good resume. For me in the last few drafts Chargers, Vikings, Ravens, and.......ugh the Saints... all have drafted very well, pick out who has helped the most and give him a tepper bag. Bring in a outsiders rather than Philly(why keep going there??) and NE pool.

Poor David Carr, he was ruined by the sacking.... Trent Dilfer about the only one I can think of that was able to over come the rough beginnings. To a point Carson Palmer too. I will say his interviews give a little hope, but its truly doesnt matter til the pads are on and 280LB man-beasts are trying to legally kill you. Need a special group of coaches to over come seeing ghosts.....I know know whom to call....

I know most dont care about this or practice squad stuff, but I do. Thanks for the updates Scott and Juan. Like @BurnNChinn posted, it starting to feel like GM search.....and Morgan is no longer the top choice. Im all for casting a wide net and it doesnt hurt getting someone form a different team than who you normally steal form. Matt berry hasnt been mentioned, hes my pick.

Is it too late to void the trade???........

No one wants to be drafted by the lions, BUT theres a new GM/HC. Just about all new coaches and some are legit good for their roles like Duce Stanely, Wash, and lynn. The area I heard has gotten multi-millions, but its still a looooong way form not looking like third world/apocalyptic. Sewell insnt a QB, so he can not pull a elway/manning either, well he could try.... They need to fire those New England dopes, I heard a few players say it was just like NE, except you didnt win.

Getting loads of I thought I read that he and the other guy were given the label, GM John would say theres no school or book for how to be a GM. Its seems the word for word did not pop up, but operated would not hold up in courts..