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Most likely he talking about Jimmy clausen.....but it is a long list. Jake, Steve, Frank, and maybe in some terms Moore where the only "non-suck" white QBs.... Could put Rodney Peete on that list too........

til the draft

Nope I still got nothing. This dropped my panthers ego -2. Im going to my shame corner....

Ill add a few different names Best arm or best physically talented arm Ive seen - Jeff George. He could out throw a few QBs (teddy lol) today in his 60s Otto Gramham never gets the credit he deserves, won like 10 championships and held all the records for a long time. All teams where running teams, but Otto showed you could throw the ball too. Fran Tarkenton had like 6,000 rushing years when the next QB had like 200 or so. First real dual-threat Randell Cunningham was already said, just to add he could punt the hell of the ball too- Dante Culpepper, Steve McNair, had unreal gifts too. Brain is physical to some, Fitzmagic is super smart.... but not enough not to play ball...

You are always good for cap stuff. Boston also hits for 5.3 million in dead cap next year too. Bloody hell, it may not end....

This does a good job of explaining. Just to add, If teddy played out this season and was cut after week 18, 5 million in dead cap was coming to the 2022 cap. Since he was traded that dead cap hits this year. That 5 million is form the signing bonus, same hit this year as it would have been next year. So... 2021- 5 million SB + 2022- 5 million SB + 2021 - 7 million panther salary = 2021 17 dead cap. I think we will be the first team with back-to-back years with over 40 million in dead cap.......fug you Herniay. fuging awful!!!

QB- sunshine RB- WR- Chase TE=Pitts OT- Sewell OG-AVT C-Humprey DT- Paye DE-PAye LB- JOK CB- Horn S- The blank ones, I didnt do enough reserach to make a statement that I believed. My focus is driven by panthers needs/wants. Roughly the top 70 players too, no diamond digging for me. DT is trash this year too, so Paye is the best player there as well. Boring when I look at it....

This is how i see the top 8 1-Sinshine 2-Wilson 3-Jones 4-Pitts 5-Chase 6-Smith 7-Waddle 8-Sewell * Some team may trade up for a QB, but @mrcompletely11 maybe right about his no 4 QBs statement that hes backed up a few times. If no trades this is my best guess

Only a madman would make a bet that 5 or less DTs get picked before round four/106th pick!! Got to back up what I thought months ago about the DT pool being straight trash, 45 felt there was plenty of DT talent before round 4. Reminder I put this into the bet- The pick *MUST* be labeled as a DT, when they are announced. Im banking on two maybe three 3-4 teams view some of the guys as DEs(of course for money reasons they may list them as DT..). Its going to closer than I first thought and still feel its like 3 guys then....wait til the 5th round before it makes sense. Plus those comp picks may be the death of me, should have fought harder to end the bet before any comp picks started.

For me probably different than most (again), CB is the hardest college to pro transition in NFL. You got a superfreak WR, whos 26 year old 220 lb AND runs a 4.3 . You have to run backwards to defend them??? Confidence would get crushed day 1. Add another, if you look at draft history CB is one of the positions with higher success in 5th, 6th, 7th rounds and even UDFAs. Panthers have plenty of examples and Chris harris, Malcolm Butler others etc. So I would avoid placing early draft capital on CB, and focus free agent cap space on CB too. Not fully ignore, just have a different strategies come draft time. Now if you tell me theres a prime Revis clone, Id take that over any current WR. Lastly zone D about kills the CB>>WR alone, not many teams constantly run man-to-man.... reason being scoreboards get a workout.

Doesnt have the long speed, Slater or Bama WRs should be rated much higher. I do remember the panthers DB coach(i cannt spell Fisbee jackson....) ran Surtain in some drills at bamas pro-day. Horn >> Sustian too. Id also 100% take Kwity Paye over Sus...

Here it is huddlers, the rare thought out non-troll Juan post..... LOOK AT IT!!

2 days until the draft...

I didnt cheat either, missed Fasani or dont know the first. Only reason I got Lefleurs(sp, stephon first name) is he was holding the ball with his left. Craig.....well its not newton or Peete....cue the litterbox.. SOOOO glad they havnt poo in this sub-forum, hope zod keeps it going into the season. Lefleurs was the only QB that I thought I could throw the ball farther than, man was he NFL bad and a huge waste of a 4th(i think im right too) I thought Chris Weinke was the second one, but hes got too much hair. Dont have a good guess on the first. I need a couple hints.

Aaaaaaaand the worst mock of this super clickbait year gos to............ Spleen "crackhead" Simms.

Houston defensive lineman Payton Turner is RED HAWT currently, even some 1st round talk.

Hes one the guys in the 4th for me, also more of a 3-4 DE too. Thats what Im banking on for part of this bet, 3-4, odd fonts, are sooo hawt right now.... Going to closer than I like, but Id still make the bet today...

One way to show where the value is by how the league pays positions. The league pays more to WR. It maybe easier to find WR, but that is partly due to team base being 3 WRs and teams mainly carry 6-7. Safety and some LB can play nickle, so CBs are not in the same demand. Panthers carry 4 CB for periods of time. So theres more WRs than CBs. Also league rules favor WR, honestly there is no Revis island or Asomugha level CB in the nfl. All get help at times and with the rules, its near impossible to lock down WRs(unless weather). Plus there are no "zone" WR, where lesser talented CB can cover WR. Few reasons why I got WR>>CB.

I echo this. I normally want to avoid injury-risk players in the first two rounds, but Farley is different..... Plus if hes there and they pass, I fully understand.

Imagine if Herniay drafted Herbert...... youd HAVE to re-sign the guy who draft the leagues best young QB. You MUST. Herbert, YGM, Chinn, Roy, Pride, Krob, STO.....been a all-time class and hernaiy would still be GM.

Me when the draft starts Thursday

I want 5 QBs drafted before 8. Then the pick will either Pitts, Chase, and Sewell, No matter! I want Sewell, Id still be over Jupiter if panthers landed Pitts or Chase.

He lived in the Herniay era, its not ok.

I dont value ANY CB at the 8th pick, theres a huge gap for me between Sewell/top 3 WRs and Horn/Sustain/Farely. Not as big a gap but Id still prefer Slater over the 3 CBs. Id honestly take Kwity Paye over 3 CBs, just far more value at OT/WR/DE than CB.....unless its a prime revis clone. I dont know about the New GM Fitterer, but I know he should value LT/DE/WR over CB too. There is whispers about Panthers targeting Sustain and/or Horn.