Basbear

Lets take a look at his recent history NY Giants OC 2014-2015 NY Giants HC 2016-2017 Out of work until 2020 2020 QB coach for Jacksonville Out of work again Then his friend gave him a consultant job for the blowboys. Career was nearly over, for sure on the downwards side and it was a messy end in NY. Thats why I wanted Tim Kelly, at least he was young..... Could have been worse and out of the 8 handpicked choices, Ben was in my top 3..........gods help us.. Now to the OL coach, whom I think is just as important.

Since that MVP, its been top 8 stuff. For sure take that, I just prefer Herbert. Reid always makes QB better than other coaches, except the other brilliant O minds. Hes great, top 3 depending on opinions. Plus he has the best track star WRs bar none, which fit his rocket. I blame Reid and his Mcnabb, Kolb, Feely, and Smith success.

Herbert yes. Not Mahomes unless Reid comes with. Id throw a few steak burgers to make it happen !

RMorris had a viking meeting for HC. I called him being a hot shoe early in this thread. It is looking like Quinn to Denver Harb to vegas, tho not as strong as quinn Morris should get more interviews.

Nearly everyone the panthers are looking at either was just fired or their career is on the struggle/poo/down-arrow side. Tim Kelly feels like the best choice. Everyone else is like the statement above.

If no QB is picked before the panthers pick, that could force a great haul offer. I still think its 60/40 they trade, Id prefer to pick a 15 year LT and be done with it. But if the LT run happens 1-5, Im more than open to trading back. Tho one of those DE would be fine as well, just not a Hucth fan(pass on him that early)

The constant Matt Rhule pissy party is beyond tiresome, Id be right there with you if this wasnt a "2nd interview Scottie thread". I feel the outside factors are making most huddlers take it out on Rhule. And the fact 90+% of the amercian interwebz is complaining online too, has some to do with it as well. keep up the good fight.. Fitz, his bad is Jake vs Zona bad. Skip, logan, and Ruffin all won 8-10 games a couple times during their ecu eras. Most are recent times and made some mufflers car bowls too. Scottie didnt win over 3 games in a season over his his 3 year run. Maryland named him their 2020 OC and he was fired less than one year cause most of the O ranks were in 105 range. I think most huddlers could coach WRs form the best team drafting WRs 20 years running. Colts have a top 5 OL, best OG in the world, and motivated big ten RB. Besides with wertz as your QB, would you let him throw and fugup or get a few yards? Not saying he has no impact, just put in some great situations.

Agree Brugler is in my small circle of trust. Draft stuff is all over, but he is one of the only trusted draft sources with a proven track record. His words hold weight.

@WOW!! https://omny.fm/shows/afternoons-with-nick-wilson/aaron-wilson-on-tim-kelly-and-pep-hamilton wilson spoke on Tim Kelly and pep, Im listening now.

Need to put a 4th screen with Scottie Montgomery since its happening...

I about to start cope boozing, 2nd interview holds weight, like talking contract details at this point. god dam it....

Holy fug, this is week 9 of the the Rhule pissy party......

Pep-

This better be for something other than OC.......hes got no OL teaching skills, so NO OL coach either.....I SWEAR it better be at max for something like a Coaching Assistant role. My Rhule support is going to raw dog me.....

Yep the connections are adding up, plus hes already been though Texans hell, which was worse than Panthers hell. Its super silly to think a huge name will be calling tepper/rhule non-stop begging for OC duties. Tim kelly is young and already gone though some BS. Best choice given the weak others. So Rhule will pick someone else.....fuging Scottie just got a 2nd turn.....I may flip my "3rd year" Rhule support form that alone, hes super luck to be in the NFL.

John sold me. Well compared to Scottie or Bob, Tim Kelly is the better pick. Rhule loves PSU and has some BoB ties, that means he should be held in good graces with Rhule. On the Tim Kelly train, dont care that Pep said no.

He did, god what a sad era of OCs....... I defended Dan henning like p55 did with Shula. OC 1st job is to do what the HC wants........ he did that along with feeding the smitty stud. I miss seeing those constant Stephan Davis runs and he breaks one. Dan controlled the game, a TOP master.

Best OC in panthers history-fact

Panthers had nearly 0 "comeback factor" once they are down, didnt even need to be 2 scores, 3 points would do....... Then its run, run, run and the panthers SOFT-ASS DL could not stop it, thus the game was over in theory.... SO the passing stats never got challengeda and stood til the end of year after the epic first 4 week start. I saw it and others were like "LOLOLOL whatever Bas they are 2nd derp derp darp.." I dont see red-zone, but that was buns as well(i bet)....

I told you after about 3 weeks of Elf playing C, he wasnt dogshit and maybe can be counted on for future. Hes not in Kalil of "not worry about finding a upgrade." Panthers need help and if Elf can limit for one less "find replacement" thats soooooo needed. My OL hope is as follows- LT- 2022 1st(even with trading back) LG- Chirst C-Elf RG- FA or Brown or Erv or trade or UDFA savior or PS surpise RT- Moton Still need swing tackle, 6th OLman, young project in order for 8 men game day jerseys. Need a miracle worker as OL coach too.

Rhule needs to be the OC.

During the mid-season, I had it out with 5+ huddlers when I said this defensive was NOT top 5 or 2. Where are you stooges at now?? You you still willing to say this is a top 5 group. "Your eyes/gut is wrong Bas". I always callout my rare mistakes, never see it the other way...

This one is tough choices after tough choices. Some facts, there are 12 nfl QBs on this soon to be 8 billion human planet. Kirk is one of them. Over the last 5 or so years hes firmly in the top 5 on many important stat ones. Wins being one of them...... I seen some posters call he dumb, he has fooled teams/billionaires into giving him around 200 million, thats beyond smart. He knew the market and knows he one of 12 QBs, played the system like he made the system. Cons- Big wins/wins against better teams/playoffs. Hes almost like a wish version of Peyton Manning, one of the best in the regular and playoffs is struggle city. I think hes a spider that will trap you in his web of hope, during which youre giving him top 3 QB money. While in his web youre flirting with playoffs and if you make them its one and done. If the goal is SB, hes not the guy imo. If the goal is 7th seed/last team out of the playoff race, hes a solid choice. Hes 3x better than any QB on the 2021 roster. Id take him, *BUT not for 45 million per. Agian theres only 12 true NFL QBs and he is the 12th, so.......still not wanting to give him 46 million to go 7-10 on this team.