Basbear

The LT panther bar is as low as it can be, still Chirst has proved in just 2.8 weeks he is the best on the team. I still maintain moving Chirst to LG and finding/drafting a LT.... Also need a new OL coach. Sure he didn't have much to work with, but also seen other coaches take similar talent and do better,

Ive said too many times, but if ANY OG/OLmen is worse than Miller or Jordan, cut them imminently. Should be playing ALL young players shi smith, TMJ, brown etc etc.... Does anyone remember the OGs between the infamous Bell and Chandler OTs?? A tad mad I can not member them....

I concur

Rhule has completely failed in the QB solutions department for 2 years. Not only that but made it much worse, look at all the dead cap space, poor play, and overall dysfunction. Could fire him on that alone...

The robby deal I think was this. Robby was a FA and came off his best season. Panthers traded for Sam, he knew what was in store. So be firm and hold-out for more money cause an season with Sam would ruin his big free agent pay-day. Imagine how much money Robby get if had this years 400 yards 2 TD numbers on the market, maybe 2-3 million?? Pulled a true 900000 IQ move. Called that months ago. We all know Rhule is proven lair, no idea why hes stuck on doing meaning-less lying, but thats his MO. All coaches want the most juice they can get. Smart teams would allow someone like Bill Billacheat all the juice and not allow a first timer form powerhouses Baylor/Temple all the juice....

This thread is the Matt Rhule of threads.... Im embarrassed to even post here, HOLY LEE fug huddlers..

That maybe right.

I can not go that far. Rhule is a big-time lair and all, but you remember his statements about GM duties. Along the lines of "I want nothing to with being a GM, im the HC and thats all" Rough year all around form the cotton candy guy to the HC Matt Rhule.

I do think/believe Rhule has the 51% power, maybe even a tad more.

Its feels like this is becoming like the Sam vs Cam BS. When Cam plays poor its the OL, WRs, TE, D, ST, coaches, and RB fault. When Sam plays poor, its Sam fault. Honestly we do not know how much of the move, that draft pick, this player is Rhule vs Fitterer.... I do think Rhule has the 51% power. They both failed this year. period. 2022 will tell the tales for me.

Awful rough start. I know 6th rounder are what-evars, they traded one for a DE thats only be active twice (i think) for the whole season. He came form Buffalo, Dan should know him well. He can not get a jersey for ST on a team with some of the worst ST in the league. Scott, Dan and the whole front office have had a "Rhule" like season right there with the coaching staff. Without blaming Rhule the free agents, draft picks, and in-season moves have yielded very poor results. When Fitt first got here he had close to 120 million in cap space for the 2022 season. He burned nearly 4/5 of that this season!!!! I think its close to 30 million. TERRIBLE>> Can not blame Rhule for that. Awful rough start.

Not to nit pick, but he traded 3 picks for Sammy boy- 2021 4th........2022 2nd&6th He also traded 6th for a bufflao DE/STer that never gets a game day jersey(I blame Dan morgan for this mostly) Traded pro bowl perryman and a 7th tor an 6th(also got dead cap for this...) He did move Greg Little for 7th without any BS to lose the pick if greg doesnt play 12.8% of the snaps stuff. Traded a 2023 6th to prevent the Bucs form getting Gilmore, could still get a comp pick for him. His pratice squad pick ups have been poor as well, tho its not talked about.... Again I liked the moves.....not liking the results.....Id STILL do that CJ henderson trade, he was injured and didnt have a panther training camp. See how he is after a full panthers off-season, I still got big hopes for Henderson&Horn seatbelts.

2020 was at least average on the bad days......this 2021 group is just bad. Including Moton whom looks like he is pulling a Tri Turner now that he got paid, hes been pissed poor. Im a John Miller fan, but this season hes played very poor before and after coofus. Daley gets my vote as the worst of the worst. Former fan as well. Erv played about 50% "average/decent/ok" to 50% "daley" Theres some light.....I blasted on Elf, but he looks "decent" at C after a few games. Christ and Brown may get roles for 2022. Plus moton could bounce back to solid/no worries status. I still believe Christ would be one hell of a LG and Brown should be a serviceable RG as well. Need to find a NFL LT, they are much rarer than NFL QBs. Thats the biggest issue, needs to be at the top of every list.....

I think that would be the better fit and for sure the better job. I just dont know how well Fields would do in a WC based system. But the bears have a petty good D to lean on until peterson figures out the O.....another issue would be the best WR on the team hates playing for the team and hes a FA.

Fitts FA class was 2/10, the one saving grace was reddick and hes only here cause temple. I dont judge rookie classes in the first year. I gave his draft class 8/10 a couple weeks after. In season...........its been closer to the FA class even without factoring in the injury to horn. TMJ got Joke Brady fired me thinks as well. I do really enjoy having a aggressive GM, the issue is the results.......he seemed to think this was a playoff team and spend resources......it blew up. just not a good start, but also unfair to him judging this early into his first GM gig.

Got to be either the jags or texans is the worst NFL HC gig.... I did seee they asked about bryon left and I believe Doug peterson is up for an interview as well. Doug said to the public he has big interest, which was odd..... I think the whole philly org spread some bad rumors about dougie... Trent drives away winning NFL coaches, checks notes... thats bad

Facts- panthers are in 2022 mode and have been since CMC&Djak went to IR. SO, given Sam is on the hook for 18.8 million for 2022, it is better for him to get the reps since this is more than likely Cams swan song. Been one of the best panther memories if Cam lead them to the playoffs, it didnt happen.... No team, (without panthers paying over half) will trade for Sammy. Hes going to be a panther and they need to get him ready...... I need to bump my comments soon after Cam came back and I said " Rhule will embarrass him" Old @SizzleBuzz called this as well.... props!

Ive been meaning to pass this along to you- Elf(coofus got him this week) has not looked bad at all playing C. I thought the sliver lining to his signing would be 2022 C and after he replaced Paradis, played much than him and his time at OG. God willing......I think they can go into the draft with the thinking that Moton is your RT rock and Elf is your C. Not going to ponder the Christ/brown stuff, just i think the panthers may *only need to find 2-3 starting OLmen.....Elf has been one of the very few bright spots the last month or so. Thats his comfy home.

I like old Jimmay and all, plus he is sticking up for his friend. Still hes needs to shut the fug up about this.

Merry Christmas!

Nice work. Personally I never use picks on ST *rare exceptions*. Plus no CB is needed unless he is rounds above the others in value. Need a minimum of 3 OLmen and at least one true LB(you have this). If the whole draft was OL was tiny bit of DL, no problem with that. The one spot the panthers are deep with young talent is DB. TE is worth a late round pick too, in history those have given great results for draft spot. DL is not getting talked about, but I feel its a big need. QB is other option as well, some late rounder will get over-looked and be a 10 year NFLer.

Brother right now I believe its 60/40 they trade the pick, so prepare thy-self..... Right now I got him form 3-15th.....just after getting my hopes ruin my this team&draft......I dont what to get super hyped for a player again.....sewell going one pick before panthers AND the year before the best young QB being one pick away......eternal pain. I think panthers will pick 6th or 7th, Cross&Neal could *VERY* easily go just before the panthers pick, just like the last couple years... I would not feel this way if the QB was just decent, so that leaves DL and OL as the best of this years pool.

I have thought of that, but its much harder to get other teams to trade picks for QB that youre not playing or want to trade. Pats(mainly bill) and Andy Reid are the only ones able to do this consistently.

As a draft nut, one of my older "rules" was each draft take a WR. As i refined my method and QB worths' gained value......I thought QB should have the same treatment.....but if you draft one each year, by 5 year...5 QBs is too many unlike WRs..... Be smart.