Basbear

Were you one of the huddlers I was "fighting" with about calling the defense a top 5 unit around week 8ish? I had it out with a few huddlers calling this defense elite, told them its 100% fools gold and they quoted stats. Funny as ALLLL HELL they were no were to be found come week 15, no relies, no more elite talk.....sorta like the weak excrement LG/4corn pulled after their hero Howell free fell in the draft. I will say form the time Rhule has gotten here, I do like the direction he is trying and the only players worth their jerseys on D were- Shaq(who 90% of the huddle hated) Djack('''''), and this is a looooong way form the other two MHaynes.....thats nothing and see the reason for all D draft. I will say it again- the fastest defense in the league. That is a feat.

What I think - within 15 minutes on the practice field you will know what type of hopes can be. 2 weeks you will have a great idea if Corral can start at any point this season. FYI- someone correct me if Im wrong- Sam Darnold has never played a full season in his NFL career, if thats right no need to worry....corral will get a look at some point in this season.

I love the wide 9 for Barno. Watching jim schwartz Ds will make people a believer of wide 9. Not going to get my hopes up in any way, I do feel he needs to be locked in the weight room for 1 year with nothing but brown rice and lean meat.

You could be right. Could have been ANY coach replaced RR and Djack had the same results mainly due to timing. I know he did add around 15 of clean weight once Rhule got here, but who knows if that was due to Rhule/crew. Djack is a hard to figure out. I do think he learned to play hurt as well and during that you are not going to have your full tool-belt. SO you better not lean on your speed soo much. I think he was playing hero ball/free lancing too. He just older, wiser, and became a pro. Lastly Scary terry did that every other CB he played, that guy is elite and doesnt get the attention. Hes in the top 1% of WRs.

Good post here- its hard to say and I could build a case either way for alll those question at the start. This isnt a player improve deal, but I can say this- in 2 years this is the fastest D in the league. That is something, given everything about losing 60% of the players and 99% of the leadership. Wish that translated to less points, but that is a improvement and I much rather the defensive to be the fastest >>>> slowest.

Yea that will help, even Burns dropped into coverage with Snow callin plays. He can follow, but nearly all add weight coming to the NFL and unless he can be a 270 LB......edge is his spot. Personally never a fan, maybe one time a game I want my edge dropping back in coverage. Many "WTFs" were had when I saw peppers do it. I do want to look into the Baylor D more, cause the reddick-style edge was unique. I think they truly want to have that D in the NFL as their base. Lastly I do feel the panthers have the fastest D in the whole NFL.

I think its a uphill battle for him just to make the team, love the pick and all. No issue for a mid-round 6th. That said, think him as a gunner! or a 3rd and long specialist. I think weight room is his path and that means DL.

Dear football gods, please allow this man to sign a deal and make it to final cuts.

Short, powerful, and right.

Terrible, not dumpster water bad...more mud puddle water bad. Agree about the three hour part, total waste and got womanwoman84 taste in my body. How does hollywood keep turning out multi-million turds for 20+ years. The fan made youtube movie was 10x better.

Feels like this is one of these forks in the road type deals, one leads to deep playoffs runS....the other back in the basement for the next 10 years. A great need to get this right.

is there a new rule that all threads must go to some bizarre talking point thunderdome battle? getting weird even for the huddle.

Someone, especially posting on the internet, who uses shocking and nihilistic speech and opinions that they themselves may or may not actually believe to gain attention and come across as a more dangerous and unique person. spot on, id say.

Nah he hasnt, he needs the right fit. Hes battle depression and almost, in fact I think he did retire and came back. I do think he would be a good fit in mccadoos system. But panthers could be happy with the current group. Hes had a Kurt Warner like career, one of the more crazy ones.

@SizzleBuzz mean me out there and we will protest!!!1!1!!1

I said at the time Philly kept the wrong QB. Got roasted.....Just the magic they had and the guy wins you the superbowl.....Wertz got all sort of reports of hating his teammates.....players LOVED NICK. Could have traded a kings haul for Wertz at that time and kept the magic going. Now Wertz has been on three teams within 2 years and value has crashed down to a 3rd round. Nick was just a bad fit with the bears.

If he was up for a try-out why not? Much like Cam the leaders behind him are to blame for injuries.

The Baker deal may turn sooo toxic that brown entertains Darnold for Baker. Seahawks are pushing Geno as their stater....along fluff for Drew lock(lololol) Foles-wise Im up for anyone that helps the team win.

I'll take it. The Panthers were very lucky and didnt screw up with the opportunity.

When Rhule got, he did make an effort to say the focus would be on player development. Outside of adding an in-house player therapist and hiring an army of former baylor/temple people.........I have not seen much. I believe the panthers have the largest staff in the NFL. Shaq and Djack are the only players I can firmly state are better since Rhule became HC. My biggest issue is the panthers are the youngest/oneof teams and Ive not seen what I want from in development terms. I will say this is the first time since he arrived, thats its a "normal" NFL off-season. Coaches can get more in-person time with players now. We will see, not a good start.

@Zod and any others, one thought I had monday morning. They are in fact have a different way of dealing with "troubled" players. I must think if the old group(mainly Jrich) was still here, the nano second reports of Shi Smith/wilson arrests hit the web= CUT. No way Matt Corral is getting picked either. Nixon would not get drafted either. Low key like the new way of waiting and the willingness to sign/draft players that had some young mistakes years ago.