Basbear

You are very wise, my friend. I can see you are another truth seeker. So rare these days, dont never change!

I agree with that and have posted it many times- should have let Cam play it out. Balls out = tag. Sucks = thanks for your time here Cam CRA was his shoulder shot or no?, other teams didnt even brother to call/email him. Took like two full months before bill called with a low ball offer, RR didnt even want him.....think about it.. Facts are he was not worth the 19 million given the type of cap the panthers were in, (4th time) 50+million in dead cap. The right move was to cut him. Rhule is not perfect nor do I expect that, he has completely fuged up at QB decisions. I do not defend wrong. Cam has not been healthy since the beginning of the year in 2017 at best. Is it smart to tie up huge money in a player that can never stay healthy? Can not get anyone to answer questions, Scot included.

Can you resign players if they want 10 million and you are in red with 50 in dead cap?

Was he right, be honest...... What type of contract did Cam get and how long did he wait. League spoke very clear about Cam.

Did RR and Fox have a harder job than Rhule- Yes or no. Did you see all the defensive players that leftd, of course you go defensive in the draft. Full boat, if the board fell that way. See how strong the Rhule hate is, I dont even like the guy or wanted him. But Im be dam if didnt have the hardest start in NFL history. All you people expecting him to wave a magic wand and proof playoffs.....

Prove it wrong with names and facts. Rhule couldnt sign players cause= 100 dead cap. I have that along most stats lost in NFL history, Hernaiy GM, 98% leadership lost, coofus, coaching over screens, NO camps of any sort, oldest to youngest in 2 years, 1 preseason game in 2 years. GVR would have been the best or 2nd best(given Moton looked bad) OLman on the team last year. Poe is a former 1st rounder that had the the best big man combine ever at the time. I said decent NFL starters and they were/are. You lose solid players along with HOFers, it hurts. You have....well you have no answers expect to punt.

See thats not hard, people acting like I said "Sam Darnold will walk on the Sun"....... Not a insane bold statement, if you understand Sams career and aware of his stats. Leftd myself PLENTY of room given Sammy bois never finished a full season.

Did all those coaches have preseason games? OTAs? 40 day Training camp? That counts for bran new coach more than old one. Panthers were a bottom 3 roster, veteran teams did much better in the coofus years. Panthers went from the one of the oldest to the youngest in 2 years during Rhule. I still dont see names, unless you want to say Fox and RR had it worse. Which would be 100% wrong. Expansion teams- Panthers&Jags in 96 were in the championship game, NFL gave them too much help and thus changed the rules. You also know NFL gives new Coaches more time with players, but that didnt happen due to coofus. Can not believe the rhule hate is strong than panther fandom. The hardest start HC start in NFL, prove it wrong...I listed starters, stats, leaders, all the practices missed, dead cap, Herniay as GM. You listed RR and fox and thats a joke.

Jay Glazer for sure is, earned that a few times went it was him against the world and he ended up right. Aaron Wilson is good for signings and other insight. Greg Cosell is great if film is your thing. Adam Schefter has caught recent heat, but been in the game for 20+ years and is normally first. Missing one or two others. But if you expect 100% accurate statements for the names, remove all names.

Name them with more dead cap and more stats that leftd the following year. Plus I want more than 3 HOFer leaving too.

Youre making my case for me. You grossed over the improved OL, which should give him more .7 seconds to find the weapons. The weapons are pointless without a decent OL unless you are Brady or Borrow. Please dont compared a inexperienced pass game LSU lackey that didnt even call plays to Ben Mccadoo whos done very well in GB with Arod and followed that with a good NYG OC job. Brady telling the real OC- "Hey let Borrow throw it Jefferson", fuging brilliant.... Yes sam has been terrible, 3rd time thats why he will have his best season *if he remains healthy.... David Carr'd is the biggest issue, I believe he gets well enough to have his best.......but this is the biggest obstacle.

This is a totally different time than RR&fox. Each also had the great benefit of Peppers and Cam in year one, both game changers. Plus the following did not happen, below is list of Rhule had to over-come 100 million dead cap space for the first 2 years. Due to coofus- NO OTAS, NO Rookie camp, No MINI camp, NO training camp. Just one preseason game Lets run down some of the players that departed Cam- HOFer and leader, you can argue this some given he was Cut, but got nothing close to 19million with his shot shoulder Olsen- HOFer leader Luke- HOFer leader Mario Addison- good for 9 sacks a season James Bradberry- gave all the NFC south stud WR all they could handle Vernon Butler- Good backup, depth Ross Cockrell- Dog and nice #3 CB/NB Wes Horton- good depth Bruce Irvin- starter that was a pros pro Kyle Love- depth solid player Gerald McCoy- former 1st and still had a legit first step Greg Van Roten- CMC buddy and ok starter Daryl Williams- miss-cased had two good years at Buffalo Dontari Poe- starting space eater Thomas Davis, KKShort, and Ryan Kalil also leftd right as this started. That is 98% of the leadership and around 60% of the total snaps&stats. BTW that was the most NFL history. The whole dam DL was gone, all 4 starters and all of the depth GONE! Herniay was also the GM. But dont let facts get in the way of alll the rhule hate, since that is stronger than panther fandom. If you and anyone expected playoff within 2 years, pure ignorance. This was the toughest start to ANY NFL HC career, bar none.

Its very simple- take a look at Sams career stats. Focus on them and the "games played" one. Hes never had good coaching, OL, or weapons til now. Never had much of season either, hence why it shouldnt take much to have his best. Never played a full season, leftd me PLENTY of room. Mccadoo is known for his QB whisper powers, if sam starts to trust the OL and CMC is fully healthy like the 3-0 start. He should easily have his best season. My main issue is hes been running for life for 4 straight years, but Mccadoo is on the job.

I'll stand by it, just read what I posted word for word....left myself plenty of room given Sams games played history.....

I didnt like using the 8th on landon or their other picks minus 2nd, but this is a great move. Edwards is a sleeper and if he breaks out, will be a HUGE NFC problem. Smart risk by failcons.

Mark this down willy- If Sam Darnold remains healthy he will have his best NFL season.

Cam wants to play for a playoff team, but playoff teams do not want him. Its simple. The starting job is another issue, Rhule is not the best judge...but Sucking Sam was started over Cam while still in the playoff race. I doubt he wants the gimmick role.

Deep playoffs??? Prepare yourself.... I was one of maybe 5 that defended Rhules 3rd year attempt, 99% of the huddle hated it. I do wish playoffs or with great improvements across the 3 phrases. But if you feel a deep playoff, brother you are setting yourself for a personal painful season. Why when he lost 60% of the stats and 98% of leadership. playoffs was a must in year 2???? insane you fools. Not to mention coofus, that no one cares about now, he and his team had to figure out coaching over a screen. Look at the 2019 roster and once Rhule got here. Plus Herniay gave Rhule like 100 million in dead cap for his first 2 years as well. Rhule made mistakeS and had to learn, but dear god you people with "SUPERBOWL OR ITS A FAILURE!!!!" I wonder how that group gets among now especially with the current times...

I think its amazing what Cam accomplished given his faults ie not being to constantly place the ball in specific spot. I was shocked they brought him back, but it was a hail mary for ticket sales and playoff hopes... just did not work. My deal is now, Ben Mccadoo runs the QB show and if he wants Cam here, I would support that. Im a panther fan faaaaaaar more than Rhule hater or Cam questioner...... Maybe Cam is not fit for 53 roster spot, but if willing to help a rookie QB with similar traits, why is that a issue if Cam wants to help?

@Zod can we please tone down the panther bot?? please

dam you are right this is 2x the slant boi, can acl lasik jameis make that throw??

Im leaning towards sir purr myself.

Maybe my fanstay football side is speaking, but I never cared for Landry. Total shock when browns gave him that insane (at the time) contract while trading a 3rd for him. I turned in my doresy card. Hes never been fast or quick, just wise about getting opened. It remains to be seen what Winston is able to do now, hes had a lot to over-come. Kamara should be missing some games too.