Basbear

Contract. yea it is too high, but brother thats cheap now. Dak, kermit, Watson are all 45ish and Arod is 50.........30 isnt even on page one it feels.

I do remember in MIDDLE school there was a player wearing a Clemson helmet on the other team......All of us were talking about it and the school didnt have one big enough for him and had to borrow one form a college program. Guess who had to block the mountain........turns out after a few play he wasnt that hard of a task.

My first thought was Ryan- https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/ryan-tannehill-9818/ I honestly think if Rhules is staying, he will click with Baker hardcore. Then its tag time and use the above Ryan as blueprint. I hope the panthers are successful enough for this to happen.

He hopefully working out and staying in shape. Most times when a player leaves the guaranteed money is the issue. FYI to all- https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/defensive-line/available/ Plenty of "names" out there at DL. Derek Wolfe is combo DE/DT that may fill both needs. Star, JPP, suh, Jackson(member him form SB50..), Richardson, etc etc. Still early 30s most of them and got a little juice leftd. NTs are there too along with other DEs. Get to camp and no ones steps up on the DL, the market has a few answers.

We will revisit this. 1st overall for a reason. Broke the rookie TD record for same reason(bye Cam). Broke the longest playoff drought in modern NFL history. Broke the Browns curse&QB curse(do I need to show that 20+list??). In that playoff game beat the brakes off the daddy steelers. Its a debatable, but Baker has the stronger case to claim #2. Talent-wise theres no debate. Results-wise- TBD

No doubt they pump the numbers, fact remains the HS players form 25 years are looking MS levels compared to this current giant group. Now the whole OL is 300+/- or 4 out of 5 are at most power schools, that insane.

Its part of the formula and it is a skill.

Hes had to adapt given what mods go though, it would change about anyone. Combative part maybe due to not getting his thc levels right.

I think he was in the middle or end of his vacation. Then many of the panthers- GM, coaches, employees were on vacation as well. No idea, but maybe wait til TC for the first one, maybe he'll have a number by then as well....

Most of the board was right, bump those threads and see me in there hating on that trade for the "worst 3 yr running" QB. No clue why anyone wants to post in the litterbox. Echo chamber, in fact I got a picture of all those who post there-

Before I stopped getting the paper, once a year they would list the top HS players on a whole page. I want to say 2014-ish and my god they have grown. Nearly all OL and DL were 320+ and looked it as well. The QBs were 6'5 220+, just insane the jump form my days when once one player on the team was 320+ and the whole divsion may have had 10 total. HGH and god knows what else...... for some is just getting 3 square meals and BOOM.

Did you come form the scout forum? I know youve been on the huddle for years. Old LG was on the scout forum as I member. Once he got mod here(long wait) hes had to take some abuse and thus became the current LG. Hes always been petty good for football talk, hates being wrong like many others, and has the worst QB takes in the history of mankind.

Its a good debate for this dead part of the "off-season". If you mixed prime jake with 2020 baker= favre. Skills-wise not even you would take jakes side(tho jake did win a pro-bowl QB challenge). Sac-wise and leadership all other descriptions moxic old jake alllllll day. If everything works out and baker resigns here longterm, it would take what 5-6 years before Jake is looking up to baker. My statement sorta shows the lack of QB talent thats came and played here....Give another 2-3 and baker would knock cam off nearly everything besides rushing TDs as well. Steve had one hell of a year before it became a pass-happy league too. Off-field bs aside collins was a solid option given the expansion deal too.

Hes maybe the 2nd best QB in franchise history. I will say this too- I forget the podcast/youtube, but a reporter that followed Baker since OU called BS on teammates hating him. The HC is known from other coaching stops to be a hardass that plays minded games. So its a clean slate for me, its on Baker to keep it that way

Other hits on this and other Sam threads- it's a money deal. Doesnt matter if he takes a Baker type pay cut, its still 16+ mill The whole NFL had Sam thought of as enigma/potential when he was a Jet. That 2021 season removed ALL the hope and his value tanked faster than Jimmy Biden. Best is to hold a real open QB battle and if a rash of QB injuries hit, listen to the best offers and go from there....Just like the Baker deal- HOOOOOLLLLLLLLDDDDD.

It's much needed......I cannot believe trading for Baker put a halt to the constant crying crew. It's ok zob, with alittle luck this team can challenge for a late season playoff spot. No matter the god dam head coach or whichever young QB wins the job. Special teams, defensive, and rebuilt OL along with new NFL coaches......it's possible. Add in a fullly healthy CMC, Moore, and a breakout Chinn&burns year....who knows then, playoffs could just be the start of a new cardiac cats!!!

I checked- 89 is available...

Good chance to be the best in history and one of the best overall. Chinn can and should breakout. Horn plays like a 5th year all-pro, just to see if hes over the injury. Henderson has everything you want in a DB/CB. Djack gets better each year and that can continue this yr. Woods can bring this all together via communication/pride/footballIQ

No clue, mr11s hate boner is petty impressive. Not a baker fan, but his 2020 season should have gotten a few MVP votes and its better than any of Darnolds/carrol/walker ever had. He ended the longest playoff drought in recent history. Broke the NFL rookie TD record. Plays injured/hurt. Talent is there and was a #1 overall. Yea hes got a few douchey issues and some teammates hate him. New town, new teammates, new staff, older, could solve some. No matter what he improves the teams talent and gives them another option at QB for the now and maybe future. Plus the cost is ultra cheap given the market.

What type of 5th we talking here?..

Do you have a few hours? I know its wasting my time if I made a case for Baker, you crystal clear hate the guy. Im not a fan either, but hes a panther and until the playoffs are mathematically out. I want to win, even with Baker.

For sure hes in a slump.