Basbear

DJ is part of it?

In order for the value part to work, playoffs is almost a must. If hes thee "guy", no one including me would care what happens in 2023.

agree, I think this team is better than what rookie joe had, but joe is light years above whats available this year. mac jones had goat bill and I think the pats lead the year with 17.8(??) points allowed that year. best in the league, by far. i can not keep up with tua and the games he played, started, and finished. I believe that season was mainly the last magic form fitz....... just lots to ask and the unknown factor is hurtin my last two brain cells......

So, CJ Stroud has to take this panthers team to the playoffs.....

I dont feel they can do enough to over come a green rookie at the wheel. I think rapey Ben was the last rookie QB to win 12 or playoffs. I need to look that up, I think even Joe Burrow didnt make the playoffs in his first year and hes the only QB thats carrying a full team(kc has big red). Need a top 5 D and that is also a total unknown. Given the need for what at least 3 DLmen and 3 LB-OLB(outside may be already filled). Just tooooo much unknown for my formula to approve trading future 1st........feels worse than the herniay Ebrown trade...

Where da *** you been?? Missed your takes and has commieforia made you softer?!?!?

Bloody hell...... I swear if it gos down, tepper is paying for my hospital bill.....

Good per normal, what about installing franks new hybrid O and a totally new evo D??? Brother that could take over the full season..... Then a rookie is also starting? Are we being real here, or 5 years of pain coming out? I see a lane where it alllllllllllll comes together, but I need a microscope....

Verge, who are your top 10 prospects if you're scouting for the panthers. ( 9 plus one bonus, to see what type of player carolina is guaranteed. )

Kenny Robinson could have done it.....

Dang nearly word for word the same feelings.... get out of my HEAD MIKE!!1!!1! I do not want to give future 1st and play the season with a rookie QB and current panther team......thats a top 5 pick is being sent to the windy city.

Theres strong talk that he will be picked within the first 14 now, Ive even seen some top ten talk too. Feels like a lock in the top half now. Honestly if the QB plan blows up, 9th seems like a fit *if youre in love*....I was....am...

Id like to ask those who are dead set on trading three 1st plus othersfor a rookie QB; how many wins do you expect for the 2023 season? Honestly. before you answer, I will give my guess- 7 wins. That means da bears will be drafting 7th with the panthers pick. *I get the angry anger over the last 5-ish years, but Im here to tell you, one rookie QB will not solve most of the panther's problems. *could make it much worse given it's unknown.

Wish this team was better.

Play the young ones. Same for play calls. Its that simple. Bonus is you are ahead for next year.

So you approve that week 18 texans win?? How much more value is the 1st than 3rd or 9th???......Im talk in each round as well.

I counted to .00000000000000043983. fake news!

I could go along with that. Brissett has already been in the flames with frank, personally I have Minshew and White much higher on the want scale.

The collective QB brain, must not be fans......who knows I still think lombardi is plugged in, but dont know for sure. I agree with you, cheap, young and "upside"......"NO THANKS" current staff???? I get that he may be rougher than than they like, but not to the point of releasing him or giving away for a 2027 7th. With the 3-4 and different O system, he could find himself in the rare player for player deal. Some 3rd team DE....

I thought sorta like PJ walker did this year, Corral would force his way on team. Plus depending on the vet(like buttercup jimmyG) injury history, 3 may be the way. Panthers have room, this team isnt that close to a philly/49er roster.

Just got to replace the hot tub.....

No matter what, a vet is needed along with a rookie. Its always been that, since frank got here. Corral should at least be given a fair chance.

ALL of the above. Honestly I feel the best way is to have ANdy Reid, ala great QB coaches. First time in panthers history, they do now...