Basbear

i mean he was drafted in 2022 with a major injury to overcome. stats are on the page before this.

I would like to see young with a panthers OL playing like late 2022.

dang I forgot how his JR year went 2021 Alabama 15 79 1,572 19.9 94 15 3 23 7.7 18 1,572 yards along with 15 TDs?? all form young, well i need that new kevin smith meme....

Didnt he start a new charity this past year? I think him and the army around him want every nickle close to 30per million. No hometown discount. I still say tag and go form there.

huddle hivemind >>> herniay.

I place the blame on rhule/snow. I think the quote was " I see lots of stanford in darnold". Rhule was the top boss and if he demends a player, its your job to work out the trade. still fitts without rhule mogging him, has not had good results either...

I want my teams GM trying those low risk high reward type trades. I loved that move. Same would go if fitts able to buy low on what many called the best WR form the 2022 class.

No trade up for #1 and draft jalen "baby rhino" carter at 9th.

given the current value, you got to double that..

danny boy- panthers the the only 0-5 team. the last 5 years the win total has a 5 win limit each year. the fanbase brought in the off-season coaching and FA hype. Landing young at #1 overall was also a big part. Just allow the anger to flow...

me too, i believe I even went this far- He would have a statue along side TD.... RR for all his faults knows D, snow, wilks, and now evero....... maybe us fans have over-rated him like the posters above said. I honestly thought he'd be adding on muscle and become a stud OLB.(plus hed be by default one of the better coverage OLB too) His value is shot given his snaps, production and hes a FA. No smart team is even going to offer a 2024 pick.

Bills just signed josh norman, wow...

The defense and ST are good enough. This offense is misery, minus thielen. Sure the OL lost its starting OGs, but boze, ickey, and moton have played very poorly.

When the top leader is the long snapper well.......Think about the kalil, olsen, luke, TD, cam that was leadership. Dont have a once of that left.... except poor JJJ

Yes some of the best players and best pass coverage players. milano was the best coverage LB and white was able to hold most #1 in check. Huge loss more than horn&shaq.

The defense staff is only playing him 61% of the snaps for some reason. No clue why youd wouldnt have that number at 100%... but theyve had 5 games and deem him only NB base worthy... Id say his value is about at its lowest point after that ROTY season(FU NFL for giving that to bum young)

thats a idea, but why would they offer their 50ish 2nd rounder for a FA that spent the whole off-season as a NB??. I know they lost a stud CB and stud MLB. To me dropping chinn into a new unit would be more problems than answers.

TMJ value is a 2289 9th rounder. Given the 60% snaps and lack of big plays along with being a FA......PLUS hes an odd deal hes moved from LB to safety to NB and still has no home...... i doubt if some team would offer even a 5th for chinn *unless they can work out a contract, but how do you value him??

Same deal happen when a late pointless moral late season win over the iants pushed the panthers one spot away form drafting Herbo, whom herniay loved. They can not process the big picture.

Herbo too,

I do think hes trying given this last round of coaching hires(few he paid up for), but in the NFL its hard to also buy results. Look at the teams worth since he purchased them, its nearly double form 2.25 BILLION, hes still sleeping easy....

Hes not elevating the team and his TOs have resulted in soul crushing the team/D. Hes not the solution thus far.

Im starting to think deuce could suit up and produce better #s than sanders.... Campy, decue, jefferson, and mccown allllll are fuging up and derserve some heat for piss poor group results.......this O is worse than rhules rookie buddies clown show...

doesnt the dolphins score board have three digits??....

I was hype for him cause of the deuce RB role. He knew him better than anyone.....but this is looking like when frank stuck out his neck for carson wertz.....players are people and they change fast these days... again the biggest disappointing part of the team *for me is the piss poor OL play. campy WTF maan???