Basbear

Mingo was here and they did dump him fast and like you said XL, mingo, and TMJ are about the same WR. The coaches tell the scouts what they want in rookies, XL was tops on the list...whom looks like mingo... I mean horn was drafted too. But watching the draft video, his attitude seemed to be reason. I thought the WRs would play better as group under this staff..

Heres a good report on the groups, WR comes in 4th. Not much to diss-agree with, imo. I have found slot guy in 4th-6th on many mocks. There are some close groups, but nearly everyone agree about QB and RB being the worst. OT has a cliff after the first 6 dudes, just wait until the 4th. https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-11-position-groups-in-2026-nfl-draft-from-strongest-to-weakest-edge-rusher-linebacker-loaded

Honestly this feels like a coaching problem. They have a certain "type" with "flaws" that they believe can be coached, the issue is mingo, XL, and others have not took to this "coaching". I thought the one group panthers would excel in would be WR, given Dave, brad, and Moore backgrounds( WR coach was a solid NFL WR). Just a wealth of WR coaching, but........ I also feel BYs confidence in XL is one of the main issue, its their relationship. I think BY trust the following- tremble, Tmac, Coker and that's all(maybe new Metchie) . There was a vid and XL and BY were repping together. I do feel if you put XL with about any of the top QB, you'd see some good numbers at times and you'd see a NFL WR.

Both of these guys do have sources...

me too, last year I wanted Tmac, but I also took the walker cheese. I still "think" the odds fav is WR, but I don't have a name. 4-5 WRs, no idea who. I mean Dave could be pulling a ruse with his " I don't draft depth in the 1st " stuff. I don't know, the teams drafting around the Panthers, I don't like the group....they are good drafting teams and a couple have similar needs. I think trade is the way, but again no clue on up or down. The feeling right now there only 13-15 players with 1st round grades......so why would they want a 2nd and 3rd for a 1st round player?> the 9000 IQ play maybe to trade back into early 2nd and getting a 2027 first to do so.... ugh.... too much and no firm clues.....

@MHS831 here's the new "watch out for ________ " The urn...... erra I know you don't follow speedruning... the run. Some team from 9-12 could start a run on either WR or OT. Both groups have around 5-6-7 players that could fall in the top 20 range, the deal with runs is the panic factor and after those 5-6-7 players there's a huge drop to 8-10 like wait until the late third round. That's the juciest forecast Ive heard. Panthers are in the dead man zone if that happens. One of those runs completely changes the draft plan. Id say 26.89% one of the urns happens..... carry on!!

hope has came my fend ...

Screw it put BOTH of them as running back in the I formation ...... If I was on defense, "Timeout TIMEOUT TIMEOUT!!, my hamstring suddenly got tight coach, no idea why...."

minus the 2024 draft....which could still get away better Dan has done about as good as a rookie GM could. He didn't have 1st overall pick or a future 2nd cause of the BY trade, that's a killer in building a team devoid of talent. He got the future 2nd back in a trade. Most of his FA big tickets have help, I know lloyd will without seeing him. He stole Michael Jackson and got draft picks for 79 year old Adam and Dalton. He's "fixed" the OL and DL with some depth, no other former GM had done that. Id say the team has gained talent form the time he took over, I know its a low line and all. Still that's the whole goal, add talent that helps make a winner. 2-5-8. Give him another full draft and full season and see how it goes. I feel like the team with solid QB play could give about any non-top 5 team all they want. Panthers did that twice with the rams and the MVP. That's was with guru Mccvay and them knowing evero....

Oooo philly without Embiid??

Yea there's a couple spots were "depth" is just a waste. 3 decent TEs with some hope, using a 4-7 rounder would have a tough time beating out Frank or "the mayor" for a job. There's room for a starter, not more of the same player. That's my take, besides I like either frank or the mayor for the 4th role. Just need one of those "develop" type UDFA on the PS..

I thought it was funny that Luke was like " Dont draft this guy ".... Luke is like peppers, he's a different thinker....my god if they got the right coaching or people around them before the NFL......all records would fall......maybe its a great thing neither "found" the drive or anger to be one of the chosen record setters. Its hard to picture Luke what he was, he's like a camp church helper that facilitates cabin life to the youth for his remaining life.

Proctor is my exception, but my ass GM job does have enough security...... Its about 2 weeks away, me thinks you will start hearing from all the "experts" " Teams really like proctor more than the mockers, watch him for a top 10 pick blah blah blah". Need a star like fall for his services, besides he can play WR/TE He's got some RB plays too........come on Dan get him!!!

I agree with you. Plus GMs and coaches feel the same, they want to win NOW, not next. I would break this idea if feeling or my top guy proctor somehow made it 19, real LTs are the hardest spot to fill, even over QB. I think either can play LT.