ImfromClayton

When the panthers are bad, we sell a shockingly low number of jerseys, and options become limited. In the good years, we had a lot of different options. I think T-Mac is going to have to play well on the field for his jersey to get produced in the FUSE template.

I know every jersey thread goes in this direction, but I feel the need to say it. The Chinese knockoffs are not your friend. Not only does the money not go to the panthers, but you don't control where it does go. The athletic did an excellent podcast on the business of counterfeit shirts not too long ago. I could care less about the legality of it, but the morality of it is no bueno. Now I need to wash off the "defends billionaire class" off myself, but like don't give your money to those people. If you can't afford a jersey, just go to ebay, or a thrift store, or wear a t shirt.

Only way fanatics improves the current product is if you don't buy it. The current FUSE jerseys are a rip off gents. Just being honest. (I still love the panthers and am excited for T-Mac though)

I fully agree with this, but there's no curing CTE. It's irreversible, and progressive. But also keep in mind his timeline went from John Gruden (and the organization's 2nd playoff season since 2002) to Josh McDaniels. McDaniels has been an abject failure as a head coach everywhere he's been.

Weird time in the league. I think Hunter had some concussion issues and things like that. I think he took 2024 off, and realized how much he missed ball, which is very relatable. He also, given his lack of size, needed to get fully healthy to get a good honest shot at the league again. He's a typical coach's kid. Elite route runner. Excellent hands. Oakland and Clemson fans were known for saying "3rd and Renfrow." I love how many guys the panthers have added that are known for their hands. If he still has the juice, he makes the roster easily. If he does not, he's likely a very easy camp casualty. Low risk, high reward. Keep cooking Dan Morgan.

It's going to be tough to make this roster at WR. Our emphasis on the position is interesting. That said, I love the guy as a prospect. He had some dominant games. Coming out of 2022 he was a highly coveted prospect. A&M did not have a very good passer in his tenure there. I also think he fit what Jimbo wanted to do a lot better than Elko. Hopefully, that's a good thing, as Jimbo runs a much more pro-style system. Potential high ceiling UDFA is what it's all about this time of year.

It took me a minute to get over the shock of the pick, but I agree. before T-Mac, we had 4 WR on the roster. AT is going to hang it up at some point, and David Moore, though he had some success last year, I'm not sure is a quality NFL player. What I like is, I've never seen us screen a pick the way we did. We always telegraph our picks. I also think this is a sign that David Tepper is getting out of the way. As others have said, when your roster is in the shape ours is, you can't miss. T-Mac seems like the type of player that has a relatively high floor. The ceiling is obviously a Michael Thomas/Mike Evans type of player, which have terrorized us for years. I do think the bulk of our draft will be spent on defense from this point on. That said, with only 5 WR, I could see a late round pick being another WR. A lot of TE projects in this draft as well.

If we trade for him, I can defend him for all that. If we don't trade for him, I can't believe the Lions would let him play with all that going on!

How will the uptown practice space compare to what we could have had in rock mill / fort hill?

I just flat out don't believe in taking a tight end that early. That may be the hardest position to project in football. We've seen countless "can't miss" tight ends be very average players. I just don't see the value.

I don't hate it for the right haul. We need more talented players and this accomplishes that. 1, 3, 5 and 6 and a future 1 and 3 is massive. I don't see how you turn that down. It's my opinion that the uber talented players of this draft are mason graham, travis hunter, abdul carter and ashton jeanty. The only one of those that I anticipate being on the board when we pick is jeanty, and I don't see us taking him. In that regard, a trade back hurts very little. There are some good players that will be available at our positions of need in the mid/late first.

I would like them to try to get Nick Nash late in the draft. Small school guy but high level production.

I sure hope not. We were historically awful on Defense last year. We need a lot more bodies on that side of the ball that are NFL quality players. Not sure our roster is in any sort of shape to be selling the farm for one player (again)

I love our traditional looks. Silver Helmet, Black Jersey, Silver Pants/Silver Helmet, White Jersey,White Pants. The problem with the silver pants, is Nike doesn't do the shiny silver fabric anymore, so our pants are now grey, and it does not look as good. That said, I HATE all these weird combos we've started doing. The white jersey looks terrible with everything but white pants. I do like some of the blue and black mix and match, especially with the black helmet. That said, if were going to screw around with the uniforms every week like it's madden, I don't understand why we don't just do a full redesign to something that would look better with weekly tinkering. All that said, I'm an old head who prefers the classic looks with some of the wilder stuff for special occasions.

I'm not excusing this, but we have got to be one of the harder teams to forecast in the league. We had days last year where we looked like one of the worst teams in the history of the league. We also nearly beat the two super bowl participants. Bryce playing like a top 5 quarterback is not something we can depend on, but we can all hope for it. Would be hard for the defense to get worse.

Really good work. Thanks for putting all that together. I definitely think our talent level is at worst, the same as last year, and in most positions we've gotten a little better. Draft and the rest of free agency are really wide open for us. Here's hoping to a lot of BPA picks.

Tyler Warren is a great prospect, but I am always wary of tight ends in the draft. That is the only position with a miss % that is anywhere close to QB. HATE using a high draft pick on that position, in all scenarios.

I love this study every year. It always boggles my mind how, or why people try to argue with/explain away the results. These are the things that are controllable, and it's impossible to argue with people's opinions. Especially when the only opinions on this subject that matter are the people that took the survey. I do think Tepper has improved substantially as an owner, and I think it's pretty clear he's learned some things. But we have a long way to go.

Tight end might be the only position in football with a similar first round miss % to QB. I think with the shape our roster is in, this is a bad idea, as much as I do like Warren as a prospect.

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I hate it, because I do like Shaq, but it's really difficult to look at this and not find it to be the best decision for both Shaq and the franchise. Thanks for everything and best of luck Shaq.

I was spotted in Charlotte yesterday too, but I don't see any threads about "ImfromClayton" playing for the panthers. The disrespect.

You gotta trust your evaluation. I could def see T-Mac being the highest rated WR in the draft, and available at 8. If you think he's Mike Evans, you have to take him. If you think he's just an above average NFL player, I think you have to go defense. That said, if he's there at 8, I could see somebody knocking on our door trying to get him. I don't want to trade out of 8, but I do see a scenario where it could be our best option if all the defensive players we value that highly are gone. This is why the scouts make the big bucks.