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All of it. Tepper is the reason  Bryce trots out there every week and proceeds to lay a turd in our punch bowl.

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I agree. Tepper was hot to trot to dump Cam in a heartbeat and so many QB's before them. 

Bryce is the golden child. Tepper's vision for a QB. 

If he is getting significant playing time after this season is concluded it will be directly a David Tepper problem. Like so many of our problems are.

If Young is starting for this team next season I am turning in my PSLs after 30 years. I can't watch BY try to play QB any longer.

But but but, what about all of those game winning drives???

21 minutes ago, CarolinaNut said:

100% Trey Lance is exactly who I would go after and bring in to compete with Bryce in the offseason.  

He would flat out beat Bryce out for the starting spot.  Not a doubt in my mind.

I don’t want anyone to compete with Bryce. I want Bryce gone from here, never to drag down our offense again. I can’t take another season of him on this team.

50 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Are they? 

They've been unwilling to rip the Band-Aid off for months going into years.

In my opinion yes. I am convinced they are following direct orders from Tepper and have not been allowed to rip off the Band-Aid.

5 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Very sound logic there, unless the hiring was conditional on the willingness to fix an unfixable problem at qb.

I see what you did there, nice work.

38 minutes ago, CRA said:

I still don’t get the Dan Morgan mental gymnastics and how folks have invented this world where Morgan quietly raged against all Fitterer’s decisions with no evidence. 

I think odds are Bryce present day is here because of Morgan more so than Tepper.  Tepper is horrible at hiring but Tepper isn’t the type to get stuck on ideas or people or afraid to admit mistakes (his is the opposite). 

By no means am I sold on Dave and Dan but Morgan played NFL football at a high level and knows what he is looking at. I firmly believe Tepper anchored these guys with Bryce and told them they had to try to fix him before moving on. Dan has made enough decent moves to convince me he understands how to build a team.

Woof. Dave and Dan are smart enough to understand what the deal is with Bryce. They just have to convince Tepper that we have to move on.

9 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I’m clearly no Bryce fan, but I’m not sure signing and playing guys who can’t even stay on a roster or practice squad isn’t going to alleviate your issues with watching us play 

I’m certainly willing to take that chance. Your guy #4 would have a much better chance at high level production with a QB willing to cut it loose and let players make plays.

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

I genuinely don't see the point in starting anyone other than Bryce or Dalton the rest of the season.

We're not finding our long term solution off the scrap heap at this time of the year, so no need to "see what they've got"

And even if Bryce and/or Dalton continue to be terrible and cost us games.  Again, what's the point in trying to "fix" that at this point in the year, just take the losses and better draft positioning while making it much easier to move on from Bryce in the offseason after he's finally lost all his support amongst fans so nobody is upset when we cut for trade him for a conditional 7th rounder.

There is an argument to be made that bringing in a better QB will still allow for the pass catchers to develop more.  But again, at this point, that ship seems sailed, there isn't a Jameis gunslinger type out there where it would do what is intended.  Even a Hooker or White type of guy is going to take time to develop any timing with these guys and it won't help much before the season is over.

For me it is a selfish wish. I’m tired of my eyes bleeding while watching Bryce try to play QB.

Just now, kungfoodude said:

 

TBH, we won't know unless they say or some people get benched. It's pointless to even speculate.

The greater point is that the coaching staff is allowing it to happen. So much for a "Leadership Council."

Yes that leadership council thing is total nonsense. The coaches make the damn decisions. Period. It’s ok to get input from veteran players in a private setting but this kumbayyah nonsense is for the birds.

Bryce and XL and potentially Rico would be likely candidates.

1 minute ago, toldozer said:

What are everyone's thoughts on davis mills? He would be a definite improvement over Bryce next year then draft someone and let them sit behind him

He’d be an upgrade for sure ( so would just about anyone else) but I doubt Houston lets him walk. They seem to have reservations about Stroud and want a solid backup. Unlike our approach because we don’t want to hurt the lil guy’s feelings.

1 hour ago, frankw said:

Boys in here already pooing posts

Truth hurts.

Are there actually any Bryce Stans left? Hard to imagine but denial is a potent drug.

Daboll is available, I’d love to see him crush what’s left of Bryce’s self esteem.

Yeah and this idiot even admitted to intentionally being an arrogant doosh nozzle because we are all too dumb to understand what he is saying so he had to be a dick to get our attention. Wow.

Mr. S, there is only so much canales can do if a team sells out to stop the run. Bryce isn’t capable of exploiting that. You can’t eliminate that talking point from this conversation because it is THE reason.

So much for the Mike White era.

10 minutes ago, strato said:

I thought Flutie was the closest comp but iirc had a much better arm. 
There really is no good comp that I could dream up. 

Correct, there isn’t one. We went all in on the outlier of all outliers and lost. I swear if they extend him and devote huge cap space to this mediocrity I will lose my mind.

I bet #4 secretly hates Bryce and his noodle arm and not super processing brain.

11 minutes ago, scratched said:

What does everybody think about a late flyer on Duke QB, Darian Mensah? 

I would be fine with that, the kid can sling the rock.

Just now, Packersfan said:

I don’t know. It’s a tough decision. Without Love though we’re a 4 win team.

You are nuts. I would swap Bryce for Love in a New York Minute.

6 minutes ago, Packersfan said:

I know. I’m just saying he had the game winning drive for you guys. Look I hope Bryce continues to improve. I hope he can get you guys a SB someday.

Would you trade Love for Bryce straight up?

It is ok to agree to disagree Mr. Scot. You generally add a lot to this board. I myself have seen enough of Bryce to believe we need an upgrade at QB. He is who he is at this point and is a huge limiting factor in how effective our offense can be.

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There's a difference between having bad plays and having a bad game.

Even good quarterbacks have bad plays. Hell, Favre generally had at least three or four "what the @#$&" plays a game. And so did a certain quarterback who used to play here just a few years back.

Young did not have a bad game yesterday. And please don't give me the "we won in spite of him" bit because that is one of the stupidest arguments ever made.

Bryce most definitely had a bad game. That end zone interception is unforgiveable.